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Originally posted by LuKahnLi
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Trinidad has done more in his career than Hopkins. -
Look, it's like this, the road to the 160lb title goes through Hopkins, and nobody has been able to get down that road in years, although many have tried.
I don't care what division it is, if you are the man at the top after that many title defenses, you deserve to be in the Hall Of fame - period. Hopkins has taken on everyone who wanted to step up - and he beat them all - you cannot argue with total domination in any division, in any era....Comment
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He has a record of course he will be in the hall of fame but other than that people wont remenber him like they will DLH or Trinidad.Originally posted by SoundtravelerComment
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What has Trinidad done to be in the Hall Of Fame? - I can't think of anything, everyone knows DeLaHoya beat him, including Tito. But that is for another thread, one from the past.
Don't get me wrong, Trinidad is a great fighter, he isn't one of the best ever, just one of the best in the last decade or so.
To me, you have to be one of the best ever to get my vote for the Hall Of Fame, alot gets made of the fighters of today, but really it is only by those who were not around to see the fighters of the past - of which many would have beaten todays' top guys...Comment
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Thinking like that than why do any fighters move up in weight when you can just bully people you know you can allready beat and become a "great"....Originally posted by Soundtraveler
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Fighters have, for the last couple of decades, made it more common than it used to be, partly because it is hard to stay at the same weight for more than a couple of years, since most of them would be 20 or so pounds heavier if it were not for the effort it takes to make weight in the lighter divisions.
And partly because of the ego that a great fighter must have. The really great fighters all have one thing in common - they believe they can't be beat. They don't just say it - they really believe it themselves!
Of course there is a certain "pressure" to move up that is put on by the media now, which didn't really happen before the 60's, even the 70's. The media wants a fighter to keep moving up until he gets beaten up by the bigger man so they can put their media spin to the whole story - it's David vs Goliath who will win?! You see what I mean, and that is really how it goes with the press.
Of course the factor that really jumps out is $$$ - the almighty dollar rules, and the general public just doesn't seem to care that much about the smaller guys - why - I don't know, because I love to watch all the divisions on the cards that I work, and the smaller guys just don't get the T.V. coverage but alot of times they are the best fight of the night....Comment
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HOPKINS OVERRATED? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOriginally posted by borikuaComment
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I don't understand how people can knack a boxer for not moving up in weight.Originally posted by borikuaComment
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It has been said before...Hopkins should be and will be in the Hall of Fame at the end of his career. It's unfair to call him out for not moving up in weight or for not beating anybody very special. He's lost less than ten rounds in the last 5 years and controls anyone who steps up to him.
The whole moving up aspect of boxing is sad in a way. If a smaller fighter moves up and beats the bigger guy, it can only be bad for the bigger guy. Say if Tito beat Hopkins, he would be god in the eyes of his fans and Hopkins would be **** and overrated for losing to a natural welter...but Hopkins absolutely blows Tito out of the water and it's not so significant because he just beat up on a smaller guy.
Hopkins has old school, all-time great skills. He is very technically sound and is a tough son of a ***** to boot. Whoever said he wouldn't stack up against the fighters of the 50's/60's or against the great past middles is clearly out of their element.Comment
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Agreed, Hopkins fought his way to the top the old fashioned way, he earned it. He deserves it over and over to be in the Boxing Hall of Fame.Comment
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