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  • He isn't acgtuallty his promoter, although Golden Balls like to project that he is. Mayweather is independent, and has his own shell Promotion company which has never promoted anything and has no licence. At least up to lately. It boosts his ego, and gets him a few %sge poins more. Golden Balls, for a fee, handle the actual donkey work of putting a promotion on, as they ahve all the equipment and expertise, as well as the contacts

    Btu that;s it. I believe he went to Golden Balls because it would gripe Arum more than another promoter.

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    • Real boxing fans know the truth and want Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao to stop with the lies. Most Pacquiao fans could care less about the sport and just want to brag about their idol Pac. While the majority of Pac die hard fans are living a lie. In the world of reality the truth has and is being revealed. Manny Pacquiao days at the top are numbered. He had a great career but think Arum's obsession with making a fighter greater than Mayweather back fired. He thinks keeping Pac away from fighting Floyd and inhouse has helped him. Maybe it did money wise but it hurt Pac's image. Bob Arum controlled Pac like he wanted to do Oscar and Floyd. If Pac fans really loved him, then they would stop believing the nonsense, speak up and reach out to Pac and express that he should not allow Arum to hold all the cards. Juan Manuel Marquez was/is Manny's biggest obstacle in so many ways. He showed how phony Pacquiao's really was/is. Beating all them bigger guys only to get beat up by a lil , older guy moving up in weight and get a gift decision.
      Last edited by GRUSTLER; 11-30-2011, 03:34 AM.

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      • Originally posted by edgarg View Post
        What makes you so certain about everything, and so vehement about it? This sounds like the rest of the Arum haters, something I never noticed in you before.
        Arum hater? Not really, but I have come to despise his antics though, and I've always been expressive of my opinion on his ridiculousness. He does come out with a lot of continuous nonsense, as I suspect a large majority of the promoters out there do today.

        When he says things like 'May is out, June is better for Mannys eye' (paraphrasing), it sounds like utter and obvious foolishness IMO. I could see there being a difference in healing time if it was 2 versus 3 months - but 6 and 7 months? He so often says things like this that he brings a vast amount of dislike upon himself to my thinking. This is only 1 instance in a multitude of B.S. as to why I'm vocal in my opinion of him in a negative way.

        No worries though edgarg, it's just an opinion. To each our own I reckon.

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        • Originally posted by Lorily View Post
          Arum hater? Not really, but I have come to despise his antics though, and I've always been expressive of my opinion on his ridiculousness. He does come out with a lot of continuous nonsense, as I suspect a large majority of the promoters out there do today.

          When he says things like 'May is out, June is better for Mannys eye' (paraphrasing), it sounds like utter and obvious foolishness IMO. I could see there being a difference in healing time if it was 2 versus 3 months - but 6 and 7 months? He so often says things like this that he brings a vast amount of dislike upon himself to my thinking. This is only 1 instance in a multitude of B.S. as to why I'm vocal in my opinion of him in a negative way.

          No worries though edgarg, it's just an opinion. To each our own I reckon.
          Good post.

          Arum is a joke, he is like the US government.

          As soon as either make a statement, my first thought is always..... why did it suit them to say that today, what are they up to?

          Like a few months back when the US government announced that the pentagon had been hacked overnight

          Ask yourself, if the pentagon really got hacked, what would the US government NOT do?

          Anti cyber terrorism justification 101.

          You can all can enjoy the internet while you still have it, and you can all forget about the Pac/May fight in May.

          Bob has spoken.

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          • Originally posted by Lorily View Post
            Arum hater? Not really, but I have come to despise his antics though, and I've always been expressive of my opinion on his ridiculousness. He does come out with a lot of continuous nonsense, as I suspect a large majority of the promoters out there do today.

            When he says things like 'May is out, June is better for Mannys eye' (paraphrasing), it sounds like utter and obvious foolishness IMO. I could see there being a difference in healing time if it was 2 versus 3 months - but 6 and 7 months? He so often says things like this that he brings a vast amount of dislike upon himself to my thinking. This is only 1 instance in a multitude of B.S. as to why I'm vocal in my opinion of him in a negative way.

            No worries though edgarg, it's just an opinion. To each our own I reckon.
            Well, you don't have to suspect it, you can see it, whenever they are in the news. It's just that Arum is in the news as much as the lot of them put together. He's almost like a Head of State, and IS the head of a global organisation, putting on hundreds of shows a year, probably not a minute of peace all day with phone calls from all over the world all asking the same sort of things as well as keeping a good eye on his everpresent enemies. As for the "cut eye" business, It was reported by the doctor to be a very bad one.

            So I don't think it was nonsense, but a quick, get-it-out-of-the-way answer to a point that he has absolutely no knowedge about. That's to do with Pacquiao's doctor and camp, not Arum. What he doesn't want to do is appear to fall-in with Mayweather's chutzpah in ostentatiously booking the MGM for "the biggest fight around" and later " the little fellah", -both incidentally announced only by Ellerbe, not Mayweather, both of whom are far more open liars than Arum-........ (I haven't seen any confirmation of this from MGM anywhere yet) and commit MannyP to Mayweather's arbitrary schedule. That would take days and weeks of discussion, depending on lots of things. Pacquiao has his own schedule, and Arum could say a hundred different things and have them all changed by MannyP's own Philippino timetable.

            I personally, knowing about Arum's charitable side, believe that he tries to give as straight an answer to a straight question as he can, allowing for the fact that he's a promoter, and naturally is promoting 24 hours a day. Some of the things he says get overtaken by events, turn out to be supposition rather than fact, taken out of context, but, in the upside-down world of boxing, who cares. Only the fanatical fans who mostly don't even go to the fights or mostly find free streams. Everyone is trying to outwit the other. Must be a dreadful life, at least that part of it. A scorpion pit.

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            • Originally posted by edgarg View Post
              Well, you don't have to suspect it, you can see it, whenever they are in the news. It's just that Arum is in the news as much as the lot of them put together. He's almost like a Head of State, and IS the head of a global organisation, putting on hundreds of shows a year, probably not a minute of peace all day with phone calls from all over the world all asking the same sort of things as well as keeping a good eye on his everpresent enemies. As for the "cut eye" business, It was reported by the doctor to be a very bad one.

              So I don't think it was nonsense, but a quick, get-it-out-of-the-way answer to a point that he has absolutely no knowedge about. That's to do with Pacquiao's doctor and camp, not Arum. What he doesn't want to do is appear to fall-in with Mayweather's chutzpah in ostentatiously booking the MGM for "the biggest fight around" and later " the little fellah", -both incidentally announced only by Ellerbe, not Mayweather, both of whom are far more open liars than Arum-........ (I haven't seen any confirmation of this from MGM anywhere yet) and commit MannyP to Mayweather's arbitrary schedule. That would take days and weeks of discussion, depending on lots of things. Pacquiao has his own schedule, and Arum could say a hundred different things and have them all changed by MannyP's own Philippino timetable.

              I personally, knowing about Arum's charitable side, believe that he tries to give as straight an answer to a straight question as he can, allowing for the fact that he's a promoter, and naturally is promoting 24 hours a day. Some of the things he says get overtaken by events, turn out to be supposition rather than fact, taken out of context, but, in the upside-down world of boxing, who cares. Only the fanatical fans who mostly don't even go to the fights or mostly find free streams. Everyone is trying to outwit the other. Must be a dreadful life, at least that part of it. A scorpion pit.
              "Ellerbe, not Mayweather, both of whom are far more open liars than Arum-"

              I cant believe you said that..... that comment invalidated your post.

              "he tries to give as straight an answer to a straight question as he can"

              That is absurd. That is the one thing that Bob Arum does not do.

              People see what they want to see, and hear what they want to hear.

              You are one of Bob Arum's only 2 fans, you and Top Rank need to get together ^^

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              • Originally posted by misterced View Post
                alex ariza called arum a lie to no response i wish manny could buy arum out he is a liar and stealing money if manny left him today we would here how manny was doping
                man floyds been putting manny business out there. manny has no money he is broke. he gets advanced 5 mill before he even fights. which leaves with 2 mill after the fight cuz bob takes his cut and gbp take theres and taxes TAKE HALF. manny unfortunately cannot buy bob out, unless he gets one of those federal reserve loans lol

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                • Originally posted by hbonnie21 View Post
                  man floyds been putting manny business out there. manny has no money he is broke. he gets advanced 5 mill before he even fights. which leaves with 2 mill after the fight cuz bob takes his cut and gbp take theres and taxes TAKE HALF. manny unfortunately cannot buy bob out, unless he gets one of those federal reserve loans lol
                  Seriously? Are you trying to tell me that Manny Pacquiao is really that hard up for cash when he is making hand over fist money?

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                  • Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
                    Conbtrary to repeated assertions and allegations that his promotional ego is out of control and that he's blocking the path to making the Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Manny Pacquiao super fight, Bob Arum said Tuesday that he and his Top Rank company will only play "a functionary role" if the two fighters select any one of three investor group offers.

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                    Floyd said don't believe stories about him making deals with the man downstairs(the DEVIL!!!)...nuff said!!

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