Comments Thread For: Arum: Who Cares What Schaefer Says? He's Not Involved!

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  • spoonwars
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    #71
    Originally posted by javysouthpaw
    This sounds weird. The whole June thing seems like a reason to avoid the fight. Why would Floyd's people say that Knonz came by the gym just to take pictures? I think they offered Floyd a BS deal and Floyd told them to kick rocks. It should be fairly easy to negotiate, split everything 50/50 OSDT is no longer an issue, pick a ring size and gloves and figure out what song you are going to enter the ring to.
    Fact of the matter is, someone from Pacquiao's camp went to go over to Mayweather's camp. At least we know who has initiative. If the fight will get made, negotiations won't be discussed through the media.

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    • Oxn
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      #72
      Originally posted by onechance87
      how can u back arum?
      As far as i know both sides are big liars.

      But in one scenario Arum was backed up by HBO and keith keizer. Hence in that senario ALONE, i will trust Arums words. And that is Floyd backed out of the 2nd Negoiations.

      Currently i trust neither sides. But i do believe Arum is cutting GBP out. Afterall since Floyd doesnt offically work for GBP why cut them a check? You really dont need 2 big companies to promote a fight ever.

      The only reason they do in smaller fights is because one fighter is from 1 stable and the other is from the other stable. In this case since Floyd isnt with GBP, why cut them a check?

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      • Russian Crushin
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        #73
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Bringing investors to the gym for a photo op means squat. Furthermore, no one involved in negotiations on Mayweather's side has been contacted. You figure it out.

        Why am I where? At work? Cuz I work here. WTF?
        Because saying "it never even happened" by Ellerbe means a whole lot.

        And how do you know they havent? Because Ellerbe, another liar said so?

        You figure it out

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        • dc3383
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          #74
          None of this even sounds like the truth; Richard Schaefer reserved the MGM for Floyd so all of a sudden he's not invloved in the negoiations. Be this bulls**t if you want to.

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          • Ko King 212
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            #75
            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            Because saying "it never even happened" by Ellerbe means a whole lot.

            And how do you know they havent? Because Ellerbe, another liar said so?

            You figure it out
            Didnt bob say he didn't want Haymon, gbp nor ellerbe envolved.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #76
              Originally posted by Russian Crushin
              Because saying "it never even happened" by Ellerbe means a whole lot.

              And how do you know they havent? Because Ellerbe, another liar said so?

              You figure it out
              Wasn't hard but thanks for the uhh...tip. I think you need to know what you're talking about before we can continue conversation though.

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              • ThePrince
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                #77
                Originally posted by Eaner0919
                as it stands here is what I get out of it

                Mayweather- uses GBP solely as the nuts and bolts behind his fights but has financial backing from other sources (rap moguls execs etc) to get the whole card together etc. GBP takes a flat fee for their services but is in no way shape or form Mayweather's promoter. Mayweather Promotions is not a licensed promotional outfit so this is in large part the reason why Mayweather goes through GBP

                Pacquiao - IS promoted by Top Rank BUT since the business at hand involves Arum and Haymon, two staunch adversaries, Arum seemingly has offered to take on the role GBP usually does for Mayweather, in this case for Manny. He is offering his promotional company to be used by the investors to run the boxing day to day in exchange for what I assume is a flat fee for the fight and possibly his % from Manny's purse.

                I think this is why both GBP and TR are at words with each other BOTH seem to want to be the team being used in the boxing capacity.

                mind you this is me thinking out loud but judging from the time lines and the bitter words both Schaefer and Oscar have had at Bob it might be an accurate account
                Exactly.

                Which is why GBP is in no way, shape, or form necessary to put this thing together. If Floyd is guaranteed $50 million (and PPV %, etc) and he has Top Rank putting the fight logisitics together while they don't take a % of his pay or he doesn't have to pay his usual fee and he's not under contract with them... then what exactly would their role be?

                And I like how Bob is still pushing for Don King to be a part of the fight, he's been trying to get him in on the action in place of Oscar/Schaefer since the beginning. The dinosaurs want to go out with a ****

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                • Russian Crushin
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by onechance87
                  how can u back arum?
                  I actually dont. He is a liar and a Scumbag. But so is the other side. Apparently Arum only lies when he releases info that benefits him

                  Both He, GBP and Team Mayweather have repeatedly been caught lying over their little dance. Why is it that everytime GBP or Ellerbe say some ***** then they cant be lying because Arum is already lying?

                  All of those saying "oh its obvious what Arum is doing, he is def lying" dont know jack ***** because you are being played by GBP too.

                  Both sides are ****ing lying but you idiots are too into hater mode to realize it

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                  • Charlie Kelly
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Ko King 212
                    Didnt bob say he didn't want Haymon, gbp nor ellerbe envolved.
                    AKA more money for him with less people involved, he wants to be the sole promoter.

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                    • jimboinbigd
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                      #80
                      Michael Marley is a Bob Arum and Top Rank shill. He also panders to the Filipino's on his Examiner site.

                      I must admit to being impressed with the breakneck speed Marley, Arum, and Boxingscene conspired to put this out in order to offset and trump Schafer's comments.

                      Well done!

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