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  • #81
    Originally posted by noekin3 View Post
    Trying to "talk" to you in a mature way is hard but i will try...mmmkey......

    Im not trying to justify nothing from pac mind or pac camp.....(mind? remember that boxing is a mental game also, ask ali).....any excuses from any fighter (any person for that matter) is pu$$y ****..........

    BUT when you NEVER ask prior to the pacman "possible" fight THEN i see it as a roadblock, IF floyd will always ask/demand this "bull****" (before the pacman clash) then im ok with it, and the blame is on pac, but it wasnt is it?........but i asure you will not believe nothing if is not from floyds mouth.......so "talk" to you is pointless.........kid
    Seems like you missed the point my man. Forget Mayweather's possible motivation for requesting stricter testing. The point is that the testing only became a roadblock for the fight because Pacquiao refused to agree. Blaming Mayweather for making the request means that you're justifying or excusing Pacquiao's refusal. Mayweather's motive for making the request should be irrelevant to you because the request itself is valid and reasonable. He's not asking Pacquiao to do anything that he himself and all of his future opponents won't do. Maybe he's truly concerned about PED use in boxing. Maybe he's scared of what he saw from Pacquiao after he moved up in weight and wants to make sure he's clean if they fight. Who knos? The point is that the request was reasonable and Pacquiao should have agreed to it from the start.

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    • #82
      Don't believe a man dressed like a woman..GBP is out..

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      • #83
        Originally posted by thatnickuh View Post
        Seems like you missed the point my man. Forget Mayweather's possible motivation for requesting stricter testing. The point is that the testing only became a roadblock for the fight because Pacquiao refused to agree. Blaming Mayweather for making the request means that you're justifying or excusing Pacquiao's refusal. Mayweather's motive for making the request should be irrelevant to you because the request itself is valid and reasonable. He's not asking Pacquiao to do anything that he himself and all of his future opponents won't do. Maybe he's truly concerned about PED use in boxing. Maybe he's scared of what he saw from Pacquiao after he moved up in weight and wants to make sure he's clean if they fight. Who knos? The point is that the request was reasonable and Pacquiao should have agreed to it from the start.
        Well to me is not reasonable, because there is no history of Manny as a cheater and he is no bum to demand to take anything, what proof they have to demand this?...........and to me manny´s mind is somehow weak, he trully believe that he lost to morales because of the blood (smh) (like i said mental game), so if you dont have to take nothing then who are you to demand anything........

        just to clarify im on board to test in the sport, absolutely.......but not from a fighter..........
        Last edited by noekin3; 11-27-2011, 07:30 PM.

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        • #84
          In a way it's what Oscar gets I mean he is a promotor and he's always going against Mayweather his cash cow why wouldn't mayweather go solo on this fight the only guy that Mayweather likes is Richard but what a scum Bag Bob Arum is for real.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by noekin3 View Post
            Well to me is not reasonable, because there is no history of Manny as a cheater and is no bum to demand anything, what proof they have to demand this?...........and to me manny´s mind is somehow weak, he trully believe that he lost to morales because of the blood (like i said mental game), so if you dont have to take nothing then who are you to demand anything........

            just to clarify im on board to test in the sport, absolutely.......but not from a simple fighter..........
            And this mentality/point of view illustrates your bias. Quick question, if one needs proof to be su****ious of an athlete then why have any kind of drug testing at all? Why should Pacquiao even submit to urine testing since there's no proof that he's ever used anything against the rules? The reason that we have drug testing in the 1st place is because you can't take people's word and you can't assume that one is clean simply because they've never been caught. The standard of "suspect until proven innocent(to an extent)" has already been set my man, your argument is obsolete.

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            • #86
              canelo vs chavez jr morales vs marquez make em for may 5th...................i love

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Specialist6 View Post
                canelo vs chavez jr morales vs marquez make em for may 5th...................i love
                yea, on the undercard for pacquiao - mayweather. that would be such a huge event that the president would have to make a new holiday becausee of it, something like "boxing appreciation day" ............

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by thatnickuh View Post
                  And this mentality/point of view illustrates your bias. Quick question, if one needs proof to be su****ious of an athlete then why have any kind of drug testing at all? Why should Pacquiao even submit to urine testing since there's no proof that he's ever used anything against the rules? The reason that we have drug testing in the 1st place is because you can't take people's word and you can't assume that one is clean simply because they've never been caught. The standard of "suspect until proven innocent(to an extent)" has already been set my man, your argument is obsolete.
                  Dont go that way......i only trust in myself

                  My point is just this, one thing is to take all the test necesary that the commision ask, another thing is take test that one guy thinks that youre obligated to take or no fight, meanning youre a chater.........no harm in the test yeah, but whats next......."fight just with your right arm, im fighting with one arm also" (im exagerating to make a point).........

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                  • #89
                    He who has eyes and literate let him read. Arum is really a snake...he's trying to pit Mayweather against golden boy, to create some sort of rift, then claim he can't get along with floyd because they're not sensible business ppl and how he would have rather deal with schaefer, but he and Floyd don't get along...lol. Arum needs to just make the fight and stop focusing on damage control.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by noekin3 View Post
                      Dont go that way......i only trust in myself

                      My point is just this, one thing is to take all the test necesary that the commision ask, another thing is take test that one guy thinks that youre obligated to take or no fight, meanning youre a chater.........no harm in the test yeah, but whats next......."fight just with your right arm, im fighting with one arm also" (im exagerating to make a point).........
                      Now you're moving the goal-posts. Now it's not that Pacqiao is above su****ion, it's that he shouldn't have to agree to testing outside of the Commission huh? Pacquiao fans have just as many excuses as he and his team does. Hasn't Pacquiao made several requests that are outside of the Commission's usual standards in his career? Didn't Mayweather aqgree to his demands including the ridiculous 10 million dollar weight penalty? Oh yea I forgot, Mayweather came in over what he agreed to against Marquez so Pacquiao is justified to make requests that go outside of the Commission right? The bottomline is that both fighters made demands/requests that where outside of the standard, with one fighter agreeing and the other fighter walking away to fight someone else. You make nonsensical excuses for Pacquiao in order to blame Mayweather.

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