DId the Corrales-Castillo rematch weaken the 1st fights greatness?

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    #11
    Originally posted by Manny_P
    Castillo jab???? You humour me. All I saw was repetitive ova use of ta left hook. It helped cuz Corrales don't got defense. Castillo jab????? What a ****in marooooooon!

    Do me a favor and watch the second fight...

    While you are watching it I would like you to count the jabs thrown by Castillo and Corrales...take note of the landed jabs as well, ok.

    Then after you have completed your assignement I want you to track this thread down and apologize too me.

    Let me know if there is anything you dont understand about the homework.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Mech.
      Have you read this article from the front page http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=2216 ? It put that second fight in perspective for me,Its all about pride for castillo,and i can see how people can respect that,but it made me lose respect for him,because he never intended to make that weight.It completely cheapened that second fight.
      I did read it, but by reading that article it seems like Borges is hurt that his fighter lost. Weight didnt play a role in how the fight developed in the ring. If it had been castillo shoving and pushing Corrales in the ring, if it had been Corrales running out of gas in round 10, then you could have blamed the weight. However what did happen was Castillo backing up popping the jab in corrales face, then popping him with rights, at range.

      After the first fight I didnt see Borges print out an article about how a fight is supposed to be only between two fighters and how the 3rd man in the ring(ref) must appear transparent, not aid a fallen fighter by falling under their cheap tricks. To me that cheapens the first fight, the fact that there was outside help to give life to a "dead" fighter.

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        #13
        Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
        I did read it, but by reading that article it seems like Borges is hurt that his fighter lost. Weight didnt play a role in how the fight developed in the ring. If it had been castillo shoving and pushing Corrales in the ring, if it had been Corrales running out of gas in round 10, then you could have blamed the weight. However what did happen was Castillo backing up popping the jab in corrales face, then popping him with rights, at range.

        After the first fight I didnt see Borges print out an article about how a fight is supposed to be only between two fighters and how the 3rd man in the ring(ref) must appear transparent, not aid a fallen fighter by falling under their cheap tricks. To me that cheapens the first fight, the fact that there was outside help to give life to a "dead" fighter.
        I dont see what the ref could have done in that situation besides take a point away which he did.What other solution was there really ? Disqualify Corrales? That **** would of turned into a riot

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          #14
          Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
          I did read it, but by reading that article it seems like Borges is hurt that his fighter lost. Weight didnt play a role in how the fight developed in the ring. If it had been castillo shoving and pushing Corrales in the ring, if it had been Corrales running out of gas in round 10, then you could have blamed the weight. However what did happen was Castillo backing up popping the jab in corrales face, then popping him with rights, at range.

          After the first fight I didnt see Borges print out an article about how a fight is supposed to be only between two fighters and how the 3rd man in the ring(ref) must appear transparent, not aid a fallen fighter by falling under their cheap tricks. To me that cheapens the first fight, the fact that there was outside help to give life to a "dead" fighter.
          Most well known experts all picked Corrales to beat Castillo and a lot of them have cried quite loudly about the weight in the aftermath.

          What is prettty intereting to me is that none of these experts who think Chico was cheated want him anywhere near Castillo for the third fight...if he was cheated why not get it settled?

          Why did Shaw bet Castillo 100K if his fighter ws at a huge diadavantage? (Im not swaying the weight didint help)

          Watching the second fight you will find Bernstein and Albert both making comments about how if the fight goes on Castillo may not be in the shape he needs to be in to go all out...

          There are experts who stand on both sides of this but you will be hard pressed to find 1 of them who is picking against Castillo in a thrid fight!

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            #15
            Originally posted by Mech.
            I dont see what the ref could have done in that situation besides take a point away which he did.What other solution was there really ? Disqualify Corrales? That **** would of turned into a riot
            Yeah...

            I bet if Castillo knocked him out in the end no one would be bitching about it...

            The mouthpiece didn't knock out Castillo...
            Corrales knocked him OUT!

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              #16
              Originally posted by Mech.
              I dont see what the ref could have done in that situation besides take a point away which he did.What other solution was there really ? Disqualify Corrales? That **** would of turned into a riot
              He shoulda done what refs do when a fighter gets his piece knocked out of his mouth... let the fight continue. Even that point deduction worked against Castillo. That took like 2 10 counts to give after he had already given the first 10 counts. Tell me thats fair.

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                #17
                Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                He shoulda done what refs do when a fighter gets his piece knocked out of his mouth... let the fight continue. Even that point deduction worked against Castillo. That took like 2 10 counts to give after he had already given the first 10 counts. Tell me thats fair.
                Yeah, I agree with that...

                but people say they should have disqualified him...

                Everyone thought Corrales was done anyways, but he still proved everyone wrong.

                but ya I agree with that part, he should've just picked up the mouthpiece and gave it to him.

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                  #18
                  Castillo isn't the first fighter to ever come in overweight but most of the time the fighter who doesn't make weight loses so there isn't a big deal. This time the fighter who didn't make weight won so now there is a big deal. Remember Morales came in overweight for the Raheem fight. He paid the fine just like Castillo but since he lost nobody made a big deal about it.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
                    Yeah, I agree with that...

                    but people say they should have disqualified him...

                    Everyone thought Corrales was done anyways, but he still proved everyone wrong.

                    but ya I agree with that part, he should've just picked up the mouthpiece and gave it to him.
                    Yeah i definitely dont think Corrales should have been disqualified he shoulda been forced to fight without the piece till there was a considerable lull in the action like normal situations where a fighters piece falls out thats all.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                      Yeah i definitely dont think Corrales should have been disqualified he shoulda been forced to fight without the piece till there was a considerable lull in the action like normal situations where a fighters piece falls out thats all.
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