Is boxing killing die hard fans?

[Bushbaby]

I am in California and believe me,I watch show time ,hbo,gala vision ,espn Friday nights,telefutura,etc,etc.and we always comment how much better show time fights are,but my point here is an overall.I never mentioned or even implied that boxing is dying,but more like what boxing is doing to us,the hardcore fans,that knows names,stats,etc,that don't care about names or star power,but more like,who might be the next champ...

honestly tough,people think boxing 1st network that comes to mind is hbo. That's why they walk away disapointed. Even espn, gal vision & telefutura puts on better fights than hbo. Boxing is fine if hbo isn't the 1st network that you tune into. But a lot of folks won't know that. Overall boxing is fine if hbo is tuned out.

[Light_Speed]

Hardcore fans will always be ignored because the bulk of the money is generated by mainstream fans. You can't blame fighters for choosing money over glory and you can't blame promoters for protecting their investments and measuring the risk/reward ratio. Don't hate the player hate the game. You gotta look past the bull***** and appreciate the sport.

[BoxingGenius27]

Hardcore fans will always be ignored because the bulk of the money is generated by mainstream fans. You can't blame fighters for choosing money over glory and you can't blame promoters for protecting their investments and measuring the risk/reward ratio. Don't hate the player hate the game. You gotta look past the bull***** and appreciate the sport.

If you look at it like that I guess you're right.

But where do you cross the line?

Same thing applies to college football. They should've implemented playoffs a long time ago, but instead choose to make millions off individual bowl games.

At the end of the day, no "real" champion is crowned. As fans (hardcore or casual), at what point do you say "I'm not paying for this anymore"?

[PhooLzRUs]

Boxing has always been like this, forgetting how long it took to make Leonard/Hagler happen?

I think technology has made it easier to scrutinize fighters and promoters. Fight fans are more knowledgeable now than before thanks to networking sites like this. It's made the sport more transparent, basically we're exposed to the political side of boxing now more than ever before.

[Light_Speed]

If you look at it like that I guess you're right.

But where do you cross the line?

Same thing applies to college football. They should've implemented playoffs a long time ago, but instead choose to make millions off individual bowl games.

At the end of the day, no "real" champion is crowned. As fans (hardcore or casual), at what point do you say "I'm not paying for this anymore"?

There's nothing boxing can do as a whole to completely turn me off because boxing is not a unified entity. The sport is so fragmented that even if I'm fed up with the bull**** from one promoter, sanctioning body or network, I can move on to the other ones. The lack of unification and regulation means the quality is inconsistent but you have a great variety of choice (unlike the NFL, NBA, MLB and even the UFC).

[The Future]

What has been killing the "view" of the sport is the lack of competitive fights, which a part of it is actually HBO buying or holding ridiculous fights..ie almost any of the berto mismatches. However i really think that this one problem is going to be changing now that HBO's budget has been greatly reduced and that Golden boys contract with them has ended(canelo fight was the last).
i say HBO cause that's the Main programer.

And no one has every said Canelo is a great champion....he is very popular but i have never heard anyone say great. He is only 21 yrs old and this is the first time i have seen him gases........people need to just let off him a bit.

why is everyone is critical of everything these days?


Also i must add. although i was not a huge De La Hoya fan. i miss his desire to fight the best, that's someone who fought everyone.
too many divas in boxing these days that want everything there way.

[BoxingGenius27]

There's nothing boxing can do as a whole to completely turn me off because boxing is not a unified entity. The sport is so fragmented that even if I'm fed up with the bull**** from one promoter, sanctioning body or network, I can move on to the other ones. The lack of unification and regulation means the quality is inconsistent but you have a great variety of choice (unlike the NFL, NBA, MLB and even the UFC).

This is very true.

I remember a year or so ago, I created a thread on Sherdog saying MMA would get much better fights if the UFC didn't have a monoply. This was before Zuffa bought out Strikeforce. At the time, Strikeforce had a list of fighters and champions as did the UFC, but they couldn't fight because the UFC had so many stipulations on it's fighters contracts.

I basically said, if the UFC was set up like boxing with individual promoters, we would've seen Brock vs Fedor, Overreem vs Cain, Melendez vs Edgar, ect a long time ago.

But you're right, that is one perk about boxing.

[GoogleMe]

get back 15 round fights

[Hewito]

Dont change your tune now sucker! You got caught with the bottle in your mouth, now you want change your tone. Stop crying punk!

I think I am missing something here.How am i Changing my tone or my view?..please tell me where do i have mentioned ufc or any sport..i am talking here only Boxing..also,How old are you?,since you continue with this kid or boy monikers..I will like to add i not only love boxing but trained for 5 years in my hometown of mexico,so i consider myself concierge and a fan...Why are you calling people names and who are you?..People like you is the one that are killing boxing s well,always try to pretend they are hardcore,but at the end they are purely hardtypers..Take it easy and breathe,if you dont agree fine,but you could get beat up if you talk to someone that way on the streets...Back to the point..You think Boxing is NOT killing die hard,knowledgeable fans?

[Hewito]

get back 15 round fights

I thought about that..but i think fights between elite fighters would be even harder to make.I really agree that this boxing business its hard and only a few make it and those who do,want to milk it as much as they can..But do you think Casual fans are the one the make boxing the most money,instead of the people that know the history of the sport?. Someone like Canelo,really young and really green(IMO) its packing arenas of people that don care who he fights as long as he wins,but if you look closely you can see he is not that great(IMO once again)...I am just tired of the matchmaking business of protecting the golden egg,that's all..