Comments Thread For: Team Pacquiao Cracks? Ariza Rips Arum, Koncz Over Floyd

[rasdun]

I hate when people bring up Raheem. Seriously, boxing has a lot of these 'high risk, low reward' fighters. Raheem was one of them. There was no money in that fight, Raheem would've stunk the joint out. Plus he was only a viable opponent for about six months, he soon lost to Freitas and then Funeka (by KO no less) so do we really think he would've beat Manny Pacquiao? Hell no.

so true. when did Manny duck Raheem? this was never even considered. Its not like this was a fight the public was clamoring for and Manny refused to take it. If Manny doesnt fight Mayweather in '12. or at least attempt a negotiation, then thats a duck !!!

[Bermuda]

I hate when people bring up Raheem. Seriously, boxing has a lot of these 'high risk, low reward' fighters. Raheem was one of them. There was no money in that fight, Raheem would've stunk the joint out. Plus he was only a viable opponent for about six months, he soon lost to Freitas and then Funeka (by KO no less) so do we really think he would've beat Manny Pacquiao? Hell no.

also add to the fact that no one expected manny to move up in weight and still be effective..and pac wanted the rematch against morales. if pac had fought raheem instead people would just complain that pac was ducking morales and wanted none of him after the first loss.

[thatnickuh]

really? canelo and chavez jr are perfect examples of hypejobs. pacquiao won his first legit world title and lineal title when he knocked out chatchai sasakul at the age of 19. pac then went on to destroy ledwaba who was a champion and rising star in the 122 lb division..barely anyone gave pac a shot at winning that fight but he did. soon after ledwaba, pac moved up in weight and fought and destroyed barrera who was the BEST guy at the fw division and a top ten p4p'er at the time. freddie roach wanted pac to take a tune up fight before barrera, but pac wanted barrera first! pac could have taken it easy after barrera but he went after juan manuel marquez..after marquez he again moved up in weight and fought morales. although he lost to morales, you have to give him props for immediately fighting the best in the 130 division rather than taking a tune up to adjust to the weight change. I could go on, but just because pac's recent opponents haven't been the best doesn't mean you can just completely discredit all he has done.

The point is that while those accomplishments you listed are quite impressive, Pacquiao's rise to fame isn't based on that. His current status is based on people overhyping his wins ever since the DLH fight. He's now considered by some to be p4p #1 based on those post DLH fights, and that's what people are talking about when they say he's been overhyped.

[rasdun]

and raheem was completely ducked by pac as was mosley. roach flat out said "your too good" so that plus all the other fighters roach refused to let pac fight has me and a lot of other fans calling pac a hype job. pac was carefully matched with the same type of fighter with the exception of cotto, all were face 1st no defense plodders. i was not impressed. even though i like pac as a fighter, i dont like the way he ducked a lot of good fights

please name all the good fighters he ducked, and he he should not have fought?
I realize David Diaz was not a top 135 lber, but that was his first fight in the weight class, then he moved up again. Its not like he stayed at lightwqeight for 2-3 yrs and ducked all the good fighters, he foght once at 135 v diaz ands once at 140 v hatton, the lineal champ

[rasdun]

The point is that while those accomplishments you listed are quite impressive, Pacquiao's rise to fame isn't based on that. His current status is based on people overhyping his wins ever since the DLH fight. He's now considered by some to be p4p #1 based on those post DLH fights, and that's what people are talking about when they say he's been overhyped.

although I admit that the Mosel. y and Margarito fights were not imprssive, Hatton and Cotto were and it's revisionist history to say otherwise.
Hatton was lineal 140 lb champ and undefeated at that weight wit his only loss to Maywetheather. Cotto also may not have been as great as he was 2 yrs earlier, his only loss was to a cheating Margarito and should hva ebeen undefeated. Clottey fight was made on short notice when mayweather negotiations fell apart - which is obvious as they didnt even do a 24/7 for that fight, the only time they havnt don it for a pac fight since diaz fight.
also, its so easy to say de la hoya was done and weight drained, but Pac was a big underdog in that fight. b4 the fight i dont remembr all these people sayin wat an easy fight it wud be for pac - of anythin, it was the opposite

Basically, PAc could have fought better opp ovr the past year, but prior to that, he was very impressive with his wins ovr Ledwaba, Barrera, Morales, Marquez, de la hoya, Hatton and Cotto

[GRUSTLER]

A special power of attorney would have allowed to access private documents without Pacquiao's consent. At the same time allow Vision qwest to auction any part of his business.. It's like giving them the company..

An auditing firm is simply to audit which means that they are only privy on documents that you would give them. And not those that they should not have access to..

In any case whether you believe my explanation or not, Pac was not comfortable with the SPA which is why he terminated the agreement.. It had nothing to do with Arum.

You guys are unbelievable. I bet, you would want to buy magic beans from me if I said I had some to sell......

Lem Satterfield of ******.com reports that Manny Pacquiao and his team, spearheaded by Michael Koncz, have hired Los Angeles accounting firm Tanner, Mainstain, Blatt and Glynn to go over his tax records and to audit the records that Top Rank has.

"This a large firm, I've verified that they're all certified public accountants, and I've prioritized what they've been hired to do. The first priority is to contact the IRS, to inform the IRS that they've taken over Manny's representation, and to facilitate whatever information they're entitled to and that they need to continue the audit that's been ongoing," said Koncz.

"The second priority is to review prior tax returns and to inquire of the IRS what the delay is in the refunds that are due to Manny. The third priority is to exercise our rights pursuant to our co-promotion contract with Top Rank and to review all financial records relating to Manny's bouts."

There has been growing concern about Pacquiao's finances in recent months, as VisionQwest, who were in this position before, were fired not long ago, and Freddie Roach was quoted as saying that Pacquiao is "broke" and that the fighter "goes through money like you wouldn't believe."

Pacquiao made a $20 million guarantee for his May 7 fight with Shane Mosley, and will make the same for his November 12 trilogy bout against Juan Manuel Marquez.

"Pacquiao’s hiring VisionQwest was borne by su****ion that the Filipino ring icon is being shortchanged in his purse in his previous fights as well as in payment for his commercials endorsements."

http://philboxing.com/news/story-59044.html

You're silly still thinking that it had nothing to do with Bob Arum & Top Rank.

[thatnickuh]

although I admit that the Mosel. y and Margarito fights were not imprssive, Hatton and Cotto were and it's revisionist history to say otherwise.
Hatton was lineal 140 lb champ and undefeated at that weight wit his only loss to Maywetheather. Cotto also may not have been as great as he was 2 yrs earlier, his only loss was to a cheating Margarito and should hva ebeen undefeated. Clottey fight was made on short notice when mayweather negotiations fell apart - which is obvious as they didnt even do a 24/7 for that fight, the only time they havnt don it for a pac fight since diaz fight.
also, its so easy to say de la hoya was done and weight drained, but Pac was a big underdog in that fight. b4 the fight i dont remembr all these people sayin wat an easy fight it wud be for pac - of anythin, it was the opposite

Basically, PAc could have fought better opp ovr the past year, but prior to that, he was very impressive with his wins ovr Ledwaba, Barrera, Morales, Marquez, de la hoya, Hatton and Cotto

I didn't say that those wins weren't impressive, I said that they have been overhyped. You're in rabid defense mode for no reason. You can spin those wins however you want(I could do the same in reverse but no need), they don't justify calling Pacquiao the best p4p fighter in the world. Those wins haven't proved that he's a much better fighter than he was pre-DLH. That's the hype.

[Bermuda]

The point is that while those accomplishments you listed are quite impressive, Pacquiao's rise to fame isn't based on that. His current status is based on people overhyping his wins ever since the DLH fight. He's now considered by some to be p4p #1 based on those post DLH fights, and that's what people are talking about when they say he's been overhyped.

pac was considered p4p#1 by ring magazine before the de la hoya fight. although oscar was past prime when he fought pac, you have to remember that before the de la hoya fight pac had never fought at ww and had just entered the lightweight division. No one could even conceive at that time that a guy who started at flyweight could even be competitive at ww. the only reason the media hyped up pac's win against oscar is because he was a huge underdog going into the fight.

Also, hatton and cotto were still good wins for pac. Clottey was an ok win and probably the best option out there since the mayweather negotiations fell apart and mosley was still scheduled to fight berto. Clottey was ranked #5 best ww at the time by ring magazine.

[acrobat]

ENOUGH of all this *******/***** garbage... both are ATG fighters and as fans we must see them meet in the squared circle ... Arum is a leech and as soon as he mentioned Marquez IV the ten bell salute started on this avoidance!

[mikemurni]

You guys are unbelievable. I bet, you would want to buy magic beans from me if I said I had some to sell......



You're silly still thinking that it had nothing to do with Bob Arum & Top Rank.

Why the hell would you quote a boxing site, when what you are suppose to quote from a news site. Here from ABS-CBN Network..


MANILA, Philippines – Boxing superstar Manny Pacquiao was sued by his former accounting firm for allegedly refusing to pay for the services rendered to him, according to FightHype.com.

VisionQwest, which was recently fired by Pacquiao, has reportedly lodged a complaint against the 8-division champion.

Sources cited by Fighthype.com said Pacquiao was served the papers personally.

"Pacquiao himself was delivered the paperwork yesterday during a break in his training as he continues to prepare for his November 12 showdown with Juan Manuel Marquez," the report said.

Pacquiao had hired VisionQwest to handle his accounting, personal and business tax, audits and examinations and contract reviews.

He, however, terminated the services of the firm after it reportedly found “various accounting issues” with respect to Pacquiao’s finances.

Pacquiao has not commented on any issue concerning VisionQwest, but did dismiss rumors that he was losing money.

It says Pac personally terminated the visionqwest contract