If Not Pacman, who Mayweather should fight next

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  • -Kev-
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    I seriously doubt Floyd fights in February....I don't know why anyone believes that he will...He has never been one of the most active fighters. And, now with his age and even with all the money he makes. It unrealistic for him to fight in February and then again in May.

    If he does fight next year. It will be in May. And, depending on how Khan and Canelo look like in their next fight. Will decide if he fights or not. If both look like meh.....You might see him take another vacation. If one or the other look damn good in an impressive win then that's his next opponent in May.
    I agree. Feb seem unrealistic for Floyd's age. May 5 is good though, I think he's spoiling his fans by saying Feb. May is good enough for me. That would be only 8 months after his last fight. And if a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight is going to happen, then Feb seems even more unrealistic, since Pacquiao just fought this month.

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    • jrosales13
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      #42
      Originally posted by WARGARITO
      Ducked him in '06, bro. He fought Baldomir instead.
      It's clear he ducked Marg...Cotto...Nah....

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        #43
        I have accepted that Floyd is not fighting Martinez. And Pacquiao will fight Martinez even less. And I don't buy that it's size. I think it's more the skill he has for his size. If he was big, but was a punching bag who didn't move so much like he does, and didn't have the handspeed and power he has, they woulda fought him. Actually subtract the handspeed and movement and they would fight him. Size and power does not win fights, without skill, we've seen that too many times, unless you're in HW.

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          #44
          JMM myth reminds me of Winky myth....How they were ducked by this guy, that guy, and the other guy...Yet it was them who were turning down career high paydays. SMH.

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            #45
            Originally posted by WARGARITO
            Ducked him in '06, bro. He fought Baldomir instead.
            Floyd wanted to fight Margarito, but Arum didn't have the funding.

            Arum, The Floyd Lover, admits this himself.

            Everyone else can interpret Arum's words however they like. Or interpret the events that transpired after however they like. But it's kind of hard to say Floyd ducked Marg when Arum says he didn't. I'm not taking Arum's word as gospel, just saying.
            Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 11-24-2011, 03:38 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              I have accepted that Floyd is not fighting Martinez. And Pacquiao will fight Martinez even less. And I don't buy that it's size. I think it's more the skill he has for his size. If he was big, but was a punching bag who didn't move so much like he does, and didn't have the handspeed and power he has, they woulda fought him. Actually subtract the handspeed and movement and they would fight him. Size and power does not win fights, without skill, we've seen that too many times, unless you're in HW.
              Yes it's the skill that goes with the size that's the problem...But, it's also the size...

              I don't think Floyd would have a problem fighting Martinez if Martinez was Floyd size. Martinez could keep all his skills, speed, movement...And, take away his size...Floyd fight him....

              Take away Martinez size and let him keep all his attributes. And, Pac fighting him becomes way more likely than what it is now.

              It's the combination of size and skill. It's what IMO makes it hard for either of them to challenge him. And, I don't blame them for not fighting them...Floyd might do it though in the future. But, not now.

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                #47
                Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                Floyd wanted to fight Margarito, but Arum didn't have the funding.

                Arum, The Floyd Lover, admits this himself.

                Everyone else can interpret Arum's words however they like. Or interpret the events that transpired after however they like. But it's kind of hard to say Floyd ducked Marg when Arum says he didn't. I'm not taking Arum's word as gospel, just saying.
                He made the same money fighting Baldimor so the funding wasnt the issue, the issue was Baldimor cant punch had nearly a dozen losses and couldnt box for ****.

                The lineal title in that sense the one in which Carlos Baldomir held well look at it this way back then who was the better fighter? Baldomir or Margarito? Obviously it was margarito, but from a technical stand point the lineal title makes Floyds fight with Carlos legit even though Carlos was not truly the best fighter out there to be fought

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  JMM myth reminds me of Winky myth....How they were ducked by this guy, that guy, and the other guy...Yet it was them who were turning down career high paydays. SMH.
                  The Marquez one isn't as bad as the Winky one.

                  But the cake is almost taken for ducking myths in the modern era when it's said about Joshua Clottey.

                  He didn't turn down payday's like Winky Wright but in the past 2 years a myth has risen from somewhere that Clottey has been notoriously ducked.

                  I mean, where the **** does this **** come from?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    I have accepted that Floyd is not fighting Martinez. And Pacquiao will fight Martinez even less. And I don't buy that it's size. I think it's more the skill he has for his size. If he was big, but was a punching bag who didn't move so much like he does, and didn't have the handspeed and power he has, they woulda fought him. Actually subtract the handspeed and movement and they would fight him. Size and power does not win fights, without skill, we've seen that too many times, unless you're in HW.
                    Martinez decapitates Pacquiao due to size, plus the skill like you said. But Floyd VS Martinez at 154 is a 50/50 fight only because Martinez is naturally bigger, actually I think Floyd should be favored. Martinez fights with his hands down and I could see Floyd tagging him up, and plus Martinez showed he's very vulnerable against a defensive fighter in his last fight. He wouldn't know what do against Floyd's defense.

                    The ball is of course in Floyd's court to make it happen.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3
                      He made the same money fighting Baldimor so the funding wasnt the issue, the issue was Baldimor cant punch had nearly a dozen losses and couldnt box for ****.

                      The lineal title in that sense the one in which Carlos Baldomir held well look at it this way back then who was the better fighter? Baldomir or Margarito? Obviously it was margarito, but from a technical stand point the lineal title makes Floyds fight with Carlos legit even though Carlos was not truly the best fighter out there to be fought
                      1. It was about funding. Mayweather wanted a 10 million dollar package deal to fight Cotto, Marg, and a few other people who were hot at that time. Arum could only guarantee 7 mil.

                      2. Hindsight 20/20 is something else isn't it. It's easy to wait until 5 years after the fact and call a certain fighter a bum. Fact is, at the time, Baldomir had a chin of granite and just beat Judah and KO'd Gatti. This may sound like no huge accomplishment, but AT THE TIME, it was. See for yourself:




                      Now, here we are at the end of 2011 after Marg beat Cotto, and people completely forget about what was going on at the time.

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