Rematch With Margarito Is Cotto's Last Fight On His Contract With Top Rank

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  • edgarg
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    #21
    Originally posted by cotto#1p4p
    Cotto is pisse# @ Arum so it would shock me if he doesn't jump ship to GB, depending on what fights they can offer him.
    Well, Top Rank has made him all the way, and brought him to the top. He has never had, I believe another promoter, and in my opinion should stay loyal to the company which helped him achieve as much as he has done.

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    • BoxingGenius27
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      #22
      People forget that before Bob Arum being scum, there was Don King. I've never been a boxing promoter, but it sounds like in order to be successful you have to be cut throat.

      Here are my only gripes about Top Rank/Bob Arum:

      1. He got Margarito a licence after the plaster scandal. I thought that was bottom of the barrel.

      2. They have all these different reasons why Pac can't take OSDT.

      3. Top Rank protecting their fighters from dangerous bouts. Brandon Rios is a Top Rank fighter that leaps out to mind immediately. I just have a pet peeve for not making the fights the public wants to see.

      Besides that, I don't have a problem with Arum. I'm not hearing a lot of stories about him ripping people off like King did. I guess that's one positive thing I can say about him.

      That said, it's up to Cotto. If I were Cotto, I wouldn't stay with Arum based on the reason that he got Marg his license back. I thought that was grimey. But oh well.
      Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 11-23-2011, 10:18 PM.

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      • edgarg
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        #23
        Originally posted by daggum
        ummm arum wanted to do the fight. he even guaranteed floyd at least 7 million(much more than his previous career high at the time) but floyd demanded 10 million to fight a JWW cotto(same amount floyd got to fight delahoya) how can arum guarantee 10 million when cotto wasn't even a big star and mayweather was only doing 350k buys? it's called pricing yourself out. arum loves to do in house fights. he would have loved to make that fight because no matter who wins he wins.

        floyd was never ever going to fight cotto no matter the money. he just wanted to get out of his contract so he made a bunch of ridiculous demands 10 million for cotto, 10 million for hatton, 20 million for delahoya. once he was out of his contract he happily accepted 10 million to fight delahoya which punches a hole in his credibility and shows that his demands were just a trick to get out of his contract and not fight those guys.

        please do some critical thinking before just repeating crap you hear from *****s or other tards who have no comprehension skills.
        You know DAGGUM, I've long been thinking that it's about time I told you that you are one of the few more knowledgeable and intelligent posters on BoxingScene.

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        • daggum
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          #24
          Originally posted by edgarg
          You know DAGGUM, I've long been thinking that it's about time I told you that you are one of the few more knowledgeable and intelligent posters on BoxingScene.
          why thank you sir. the only unintelligent thing i've ever said is calzaghe is the greatest of all time. that was silly of me because it's clearly chris john!

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            #25
            Originally posted by savorduhflavor
            In Rafael's chat today he mentioned it. He said that Arum didn't want to discuss it "but Bob knows he'll have to deal with it after the Margarito fight".

            This would infer that Arum knows there's going to be a problem resigning him.
            A little more savoire du faire if you please. You mean that "that would imply..." not infer.... which has a totally different meaning.

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            • Simply Zyzz
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              #26
              i said this two days ago when someone covering the margarito license fiasco posted it on twitter...

              edit: its @ChrisMannixSI

              go read his timeline, apparently there is tension between top rank and cotto and top rank has said they dont know whether they'll be able to re-sign him...

              ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
              There is some tension between Cotto and Top Rank. TR doesn't know if they will be able to re-sign Cotto after this fight.



              it was clear there is tension when cotto told arum he is not fighting anywhere outside new york because he signed a contract to sign in new york, after cotto said that arum ended the teleconference....



              now as far as my opinion, i think he should go with golden boy, and im pretty sure he will... cotto and oscar de lahoya have hanged out several times and both consider each other a friend

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              • uoykcuf
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                #27
                Doesn't Cotto have his own Promotional company? He should leave Top Rank and run things how he wants to run them. I know its a little harder for a boxer to run his own career but at same time he would be making damn near close to 100 percent of the profit other than paying for his trainer and corner.

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                • Light_Speed
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  ummm arum wanted to do the fight. he even guaranteed floyd at least 7 million(much more than his previous career high at the time) but floyd demanded 10 million to fight a JWW cotto(same amount floyd got to fight delahoya) how can arum guarantee 10 million when cotto wasn't even a big star and mayweather was only doing 350k buys? it's called pricing yourself out. arum loves to do in house fights. he would have loved to make that fight because no matter who wins he wins.

                  floyd was never ever going to fight cotto no matter the money. he just wanted to get out of his contract so he made a bunch of ridiculous demands 10 million for cotto, 10 million for hatton, 20 million for delahoya. once he was out of his contract he happily accepted 10 million to fight delahoya which punches a hole in his credibility and shows that his demands were just a trick to get out of his contract and not fight those guys.

                  please do some critical thinking before just repeating crap you hear from *****s or other tards who have no comprehension skills.
                  What you forgot to say is that Arum guaranteed Floyd 8 mil for a Margarito fight. 1 more million than the Cotto fight even though Cotto was and still is the much bigger draw, what does that tell you? He also kept Cotto away from Floyd at 140.

                  Floyd didn't lose his credibility because in his next fight after leaving Top Rank he earned 1 more dollar than Arum's highest offer. Then he fought Oscar for 15 mil guaranteed + a share of the PPVs and gate money so when it was all said and done he made more than 20 million. Do your homework son.

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                  • onechance87
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                    #29
                    Sign with gb only if they can get him a fight with floyd or canelo.

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                    • 240sxdippin
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                      #30
                      gbp would give him more activity with the same amount of money each.= more money

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