Comments Thread For: Julio Cesar Chavez Sr: Marquez Broke The Pacquiao Myth

[boxingfan76]

I agree, im no Pac fan, but Chavez sr. needs to shut the **** up. He never has **** to say except when it pretains to another Mexican. He was a warrior, fine, he was, but hes still douchy, and had a douchy padded record to match. So does Pac, so does Floyd. btw Angulo looked great against Kirkland . (and im a Perro fan, but lets be honest, he looked like a Pile of tequila ladden puke, mixed with watery, taco **** against Kirkland, and none of the MExicans had anything to say about that. He should have opened his mouth to spout off about that, but he was probably too busy drinking his own piss, as we know Mexicans do. (For example, look at your idol, Juan Manual Marquez, a master pissdrinker.)

dude you are soo wrong on soo many different levels, you need to get your ass beatdown by a mexican so you can learn to control your mouth a little bit,your just all over the place,a loss is a loss and Angulos loss why should we complain? it speaks for itself what could anyone say about being ko'ed what???The only obvious sore loser here is you because pac isnt getting away with his "victory" this time! the world is calling him out on it and he doesnt like it one bit!JMM has every right in the world to be upset as do his fans because he didnt lose in fact he won damn handily, it was very shameless what AMERICANS in vegas did since they bet their house on pacman ,they surley would be dumpster diving and taken tremendous losses had theyonly been honest. .As an American it shames me that those judges love money more than any sort of integrity the fight was not close.And all this "you gotta beat the champ" crap is code for -"we dont want to give your guy the victory under any circumstances unless he scores a ko which is undebatable then""Yeah JMM drank his own piss,but whats that make you?? whats that make pac? hes more than all of you combined he beat this asian clown whos supposed to be "unbeatable" and proved almost every idiot on earth like you dead wrong!JMM and Mexicans EARNED the right to complain we are the largest boxing audience our boxers we also have historically the most world champs overall the most period, and in contention,and we aint having none of this pac being the greatest talk cuz our guy just whooped that ass and the entire world knows it only idiots like you are still debating a crystal clear ass beatdown lol....Jcc douchey wins??? the meldrick taylor win was for pnd for pnd supremacy his record is untouchable by anyone in boxing today,and hes in the guiness book for most championship contests in the history of the sport ,You obviousley hate mexicans sad for you,we make tacos and still can beat your ass or anyone's for that matter,Even at 38 yrs old with every disadvantage conceivable except ring intelligence something pac will NEVER have.

[fishman]

Lol. An Anti-American MExican. What else is new. Your right about the Taylor fight, it was for pnd for pnd supremacy, and
Chavez got a straight up gift. Its ok when the officials favor a Mexican though, right? The Pac/Marquez fight was CLOSE, period. I wouldnt have been shocked if it went either way, but to call it a Robbery is utterly ridiculous. Please dont talk about ass beatings online, it makes you look like a total b*itch. And to say Chavez's record wasnt padded with losers is down right ignorant, which, as a Mexican you probably are. Listen to you, all sore over someone online dissing Mexican boxing. Sad at many levels.....Sad because you know im right, at least to some degree. As for the Angulo loss, your making my point for me. Mexicans only open their mouths to complain about Mexican boxing or speak on their boxers. Never to speak on anyone else or boxers in general. Thats why Mexicans are ****ty fans, they are so blinded by their one sided vision, and "love" for their fighters that they cant be objective. And your actually defending piss-drinking? LOL F*ucking awesome. No reason to drink your own piss for the left over vitamins when you can just injest fresh ones. He drank it because piss actually tastes better then most Mexican food and drinks. And I could give a **** who won the fight, Im not Pac ballhugger, just a boxing fan who thought the fight was close, way too close to be called a robbery. Its only an outrage when the Mexicans dont win.....riiite. Where were you for the Williams/Lara Robbbery? Sitting at home, licking your greasy, piss scented fingers, ...but definitely not on here *****in about an actual robbery in boxing. Typical ignorant piss breath.

dude you are soo wrong on soo many different levels, you need to get your ass beatdown by a mexican so you can learn to control your mouth a little bit,your just all over the place,a loss is a loss and Angulos loss why should we complain? it speaks for itself what could anyone say about being ko'ed what???The only obvious sore loser here is you because pac isnt getting away with his "victory" this time! the world is calling him out on it and he doesnt like it one bit!JMM has every right in the world to be upset as do his fans because he didnt lose in fact he won damn handily, it was very shameless what AMERICANS in vegas did since they bet their house on pacman ,they surley would be dumpster diving and taken tremendous losses had theyonly been honest. .As an American it shames me that those judges love money more than any sort of integrity the fight was not close.And all this "you gotta beat the champ" crap is code for -"we dont want to give your guy the victory under any circumstances unless he scores a ko which is undebatable then""Yeah JMM drank his own piss,but whats that make you?? whats that make pac? hes more than all of you combined he beat this asian clown whos supposed to be "unbeatable" and proved almost every idiot on earth like you dead wrong!JMM and Mexicans EARNED the right to complain we are the largest boxing audience our boxers we also have historically the most world champs overall the most period, and in contention,and we aint having none of this pac being the greatest talk cuz our guy just whooped that ass and the entire world knows it only idiots like you are still debating a crystal clear ass beatdown lol....Jcc douchey wins??? the meldrick taylor win was for pnd for pnd supremacy his record is untouchable by anyone in boxing today,and hes in the guiness book for most championship contests in the history of the sport ,You obviousley hate mexicans sad for you,we make tacos and still can beat your ass or anyone's for that matter,Even at 38 yrs old with every disadvantage conceivable except ring intelligence something pac will NEVER have.

[GoogleMe]

JCC SR is one of the GOATs

[Check_hooks]

So I guess losing = breaking the Pacquiao myth???

LMAO yall mexicans are hilarious

[boxingfan76]

I guess the judges and a couple of others were the only ones watching the fight. The first two fights were closer and that's why Marquez got at least one judge in both fights. He got outworked and he didn't want to try to to win so he didn't get knocked down but at the same time he didn't get close to winning. I'm going to say something and I know its not going to be popular but F-It! I was raised to be a strong black man and speak my mind. I think the boxing community is hating on Pacquiao because he's Asian and not African American or Mexican who are suppose to be the two dominate ethnic group and nationality in boxing. People say well he couldn't do to Marquez what he did to the others DUHH. The others came to fight. Marquez wanted to counter-punch and back peddle his way to victory and Pacquiao and the judges wasn't having it... He got outworked!!! He landed the prettier punches but Pacquiao landed the most punches, the harder punches, and threw the most punches. Look at Pacquiao's face after the 3rd fight compared to the first two he took far less hard shots and look at Marquez face after the third fight compared to the first two. He took harder shots in the third fight. Cry and Bitc$ all you want but the numbers and eyes don't lie. Mexicans saying the guy that back peddled and counter punched won over the aggressor that came forward and landed more punches and fought like a true Mexican warrior. That can only be motivated by something else. I don't know how many times Mexicans cried foul over a decision in a simular fight when the guy that fought like Marquez was black and the guy that fought like Pac was Mexican. If Marquez wanted to win he should had fought like he did in the first two fights, yeah he got knocked down but he was closer to winning. He couldn't get not one judge this time to award him for his back peddling, I don't want to risk anything display of boxing... If Pacquiao chose to fight like Marquez it would have been just as boring as Marquez vs. Mayweather so I would like to thank Pac for thinking about the fans that paid their money and not turning the fight into Marquez and Mayweather's counter punch let's put PPV buyers to sleep fest..

soo if what your saying is true how on earth would the most running counter punching fighter of all mayweather ever beat pac??? and your justs dead wrong buddy, pac didnt landn a damn thing that even affected Juan,andJuan lead the fight and initiated a lot of the exchanges ,following a guy and getting punched in the face isnt " leading" pac couldnt get anything off and those compubox numbers are about as questionable as the decision because its obvious pac missed more than he landed and what he landed didnt do crap,pac was bleeding from his mouth at the end of the night its was pacs blood on the canvass not jmms.Soo lemme get this straight JMm winning just about every exchange with pacman qualifies as"not risking anything"??? the judges in this fight obviousley had alterior motives. JMm has his style that has given him more kos and wions than pac,and pac has his style thats worked for him, why should jmm change his style to make it easy for pac just so he can live up to a phoney standard hell never live up to?? to people like you and the judges there will always be an excuse simply because yall were proven dead wrong.pac got his ass beat end of story and jmm did no such thing as run its called boxing 101 .If this were mayweather youd be running with it bro your upste our little 38 yr old man made a mockery of pac and the boxing establishment in vegas at least.Its obvious to a neutral person that pac wasnt even in this fight so saying it was even close pretty much shows you dont even know what your talking abot this fight was not close,JMM set the pace JMM executed the gamplan ,JMM made pac look like a confused bull ,aint a damn thing wrong with that SRR SRl and Muhamed Ali did the same in their biggest fights. its like saying ali shoulda brawled with frazier or foreman for his win to be legit ,thats just absurd bro.....

[boxingfan76]

So I guess losing = breaking the Pacquiao myth???

LMAO yall mexicans are hilarious

sure we are thats why every pro fighter and the world is backing us not you.

[GRUSTLER]

dude you are soo wrong on soo many different levels, you need to get your ass beatdown by a mexican so you can learn to control your mouth a little bit,your just all over the place,a loss is a loss and Angulos loss why should we complain? it speaks for itself what could anyone say about being ko'ed what???The only obvious sore loser here is you because pac isnt getting away with his "victory" this time! the world is calling him out on it and he doesnt like it one bit!JMM has every right in the world to be upset as do his fans because he didnt lose in fact he won damn handily, it was very shameless what AMERICANS in vegas did since they bet their house on pacman ,they surley would be dumpster diving and taken tremendous losses had theyonly been honest. .As an American it shames me that those judges love money more than any sort of integrity the fight was not close.And all this "you gotta beat the champ" crap is code for -"we dont want to give your guy the victory under any circumstances unless he scores a ko which is undebatable then""Yeah JMM drank his own piss,but whats that make you?? whats that make pac? hes more than all of you combined he beat this asian clown whos supposed to be "unbeatable" and proved almost every idiot on earth like you dead wrong!JMM and Mexicans EARNED the right to complain we are the largest boxing audience our boxers we also have historically the most world champs overall the most period, and in contention,and we aint having none of this pac being the greatest talk cuz our guy just whooped that ass and the entire world knows it only idiots like you are still debating a crystal clear ass beatdown lol....Jcc douchey wins??? the meldrick taylor win was for pnd for pnd supremacy his record is untouchable by anyone in boxing today,and hes in the guiness book for most championship contests in the history of the sport ,You obviousley hate mexicans sad for you,we make tacos and still can beat your ass or anyone's for that matter,Even at 38 yrs old with every disadvantage conceivable except ring intelligence something pac will NEVER have.

You tell him bruh. While everyone was screaming that Pac would massacre JMM like all of his other mismatch fights prior, I was one of the very few who said Marquez would give Pac a run for his money. shows how many boxing fans there actually are and how many people rode the Manny train. Everyone was caught off guard but I knew Pac has troubles with pure boxers because he is all over the place and wide open. Before I thought Pac could be overwhelmed by size and strength but was wrong because he is too fast for pressure fighters. Patience and counter punching beats Pac..... Been saying it.


10-10-2011, 10:26 AM #98

Listen, while Pac may win this fight because of him being comfortable because of the weight. By no means will he school or destroy JMM. JMM has a nightmarish style for Manny Pacquiao and Pac ain't known for being a 1 punch KO artist, so don't know what people are talking about him KO'n JMM in 6 rounds when he could not do it at his best weight in 24rds with 4 kd's. I'm taking the loss to Floyd at 144 with a grain of salt because Floyd is a different kind of fighter/boxer. JMM could not properly touch Floyd because of his size, reach and defense while Pac doesn't have any of them advantages over Juan Manuel Marquez. On top of that. Pac hasn't been fighting the toughest most competitive challenges in the division(s) so lets give Juan Manuel Marquez some credit for being the only fighter to make Pac have to go all out.

It's not size but skill and while Pac may be stronger at that weight, I think skill is what gets you through a fight and frankly JMM is a better boxer technically than Pac when he fights his fight and not Pac's. I know most are crying foul with this fight but I'm going to give JMM the benefit of the doubt because of his skill set and ability to make Manny have to fight. I'm actually looking forward to this match because am curious to see how it transpires.

Old 10-09-2011, 08:33 PM #40

Manny can be and probably is stronger than JMM at this weight but how can you base that he will annihilate JMM when all Manny has been fighting are guys slower than him with no defense or real boxing technicality? Also, basing Pac will flatten JMM over the fact that Floyd made JMM look useless at 144 is not good enough proof because JMM fought Floyd and no one looks good against Mayweather. May have moments but eventually gets shut down. I think if JMM hasn't been KO already then he won't be if he fights Manny smart instead of letting his nuts hang. Manny may indeed win but I'm not going to say he destroys JMM considering styles make fights and JMM has always had a style to bother Pacquiao.

[boxingfan76]

Lol. An Anti-American MExican. What else is new. Your right about the Taylor fight, it was for pnd for pnd supremacy, and
Chavez got a straight up gift. Its ok when the officials favor a Mexican though, right? The Pac/Marquez fight was CLOSE, period. I wouldnt have been shocked if it went either way, but to call it a Robbery is utterly ridiculous. Please dont talk about ass beatings online, it makes you look like a total b*itch. And to say Chavez's record wasnt padded with losers is down right ignorant, which, as a Mexican you probably are. Listen to you, all sore over someone online dissing Mexican boxing. Sad at many levels.....Sad because you know im right, at least to some degree. As for the Angulo loss, your making my point for me. Mexicans only open their mouths to complain about boxing or speak on their boxers. Never to speak on anyone else or boxers in general. Thats why Mexicans are ****ty fans, they are so blinded by their one sided vision, and "love" for their fighters that they cant be objective. And your actually defending piss-drinking? LOL F*ucking awesome. No reason to drink your own piss for the left over vitamins when you can just injest fresh ones. He drank it because piss actually tastes better then most Mexican food and drinks. And I could give a **** who won the fight, Im not Pac ballhugger, just a boxing fan who thought the fight was close, way too close to be called a robbery. Its only an outrage when the Mexicans dont win.....riiite. Where were you for the Williams/Lara Robbbery? Sitting at home, licking your greasy, piss scented fingers, ...but definitely not on here *****in about an actual robbery in boxing. Typical ignorant piss breath.

and your an anti mexican american what elses is new? and Chavez got a gift ???/taylor got his face broken a fractured orbital and half killed and knocked down,and he was robbed?bawahaha ha haha ha , dude you are delusional.I dont hate Americans I hate Americans like you though why do you hate Mexicans so much? because they are outnumbering you by the day, or becasue they mostley beat up your heroeos.And what does any of this even have to do with race????If you hate mexicans soo much why are you watching the ONE sport where they are a permaneant fixture in ??? face it dude you love mexicans but your daddy which is probably your brother wont let u date one, look dont be mad because our guy did something your peeps will NEVER do or even come close to ,just shut your little white ass down on the sidelines and keep admiring how mexicans and every minority does it lol...Typical white trash:they get outperformed or proven wrong and it immediatley gets racial....And yes Lara was robbed its the same exact corrupt crap that went on here keep the name guy going even if he doent deserve it.GTFOH punk go watch ice hockey or something....

[ncpitbull]

What had Chavez Sr said is true, he is a real Mexican anyway. And it's true that Oscar and Shane was a finished fact, because Pac did it! Margarito is slow? Yes, it's true when it comes to Pac, Shane and PWills, but not to Cotto, Cintron and Clottey of course! And also Hatton was retirable, but not a reason when he lose to Floyd Sr. in Floyd's home turf at WW, but retired when Pac assailed him and beat him in his undsputed home turf at JWW in spectacular passion! Not at all a disrespect Mr. Chavez Sr, you just failed to add the truth!

What in the world? ^^^^^

[$coinblatt$]

fvkk Chavez...dude aint ****.

Aint this the same guy who built an 80-0 sumthin record fighting chicken farmers, and cumbia singers only to get his @ss dusted by sweat pea, oscar and just about every legit opponent he faced?

Dude needs to quit doing interviews liquer'd up.

calm down.