Comments Thread For: Julio Cesar Chavez Sr: Marquez Broke The Pacquiao Myth

[BoxingGenius27]

You tell him bruh. While everyone was screaming that Pac would massacre JMM like all of his other mismatch fights prior, I was one of the very few who said Marquez would give Pac a run for his money. shows how many boxing fans there actually are and how many people rode the Manny train. Everyone was caught off guard but I knew Pac has troubles with pure boxers because he is all over the place and wide open. Before I thought Pac could be overwhelmed by size and strength but was wrong because he is too fast for pressure fighters. Patience and counter punching beats Pac..... Been saying it.


10-10-2011, 10:26 AM #98

Old 10-09-2011, 08:33 PM #40

Props for calling it. I sure as hell missed that one by a long shot.

[BoxingGenius27]

Wow, it's really heated in this thread.

I click on the last page and all I see is a bunch of racial name calling going on.

Geez, all this because JCC said Marquez broke the Pac myth?

[treason1]

doesnt suprise me chavez would hate on manny !!!! seeing how manny is in position to overtake chavez in the atg department !!!!! and he is mexican so he will ride for his mexican brother !!!!

[trainhard_187]

Legendary former three-division world champion Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. was very proud of his countryman, Juan Manuel Marquez in his third fight with WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao. Chavez Sr. was doing the ringside commentary for the bout, which took place on November 12th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Marquez lost a close 12-round majority decision, but was viewed as the winner by Chavez Sr. because he broke the myth of Pacquiao being an invincible fighter. Chavez Sr., unlike other fighters, is not impressed with Pacquiao's recent victories.

"Marquez showed that he is better than Pacquiao. [Pacquiao] is not invincible. He's not what you think he is,” said Chavez, who was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame earlier this year. “He caught De La Hoya when he was finished. He had a good fight against Margarito, but he's slow. And Mosley was finished." [Click Here To Read More]

As if Marquez could accomplish any of these SMH.. Marquez stood his ground against Pac.. Thats about it..

[Bermuda]

dude you are soo wrong on soo many different levels, you need to get your ass beatdown by a mexican so you can learn to control your mouth a little bit,your just all over the place,a loss is a loss and Angulos loss why should we complain? it speaks for itself what could anyone say about being ko'ed what???The only obvious sore loser here is you because pac isnt getting away with his "victory" this time! the world is calling him out on it and he doesnt like it one bit!JMM has every right in the world to be upset as do his fans because he didnt lose in fact he won damn handily, it was very shameless what AMERICANS in vegas did since they bet their house on pacman ,they surley would be dumpster diving and taken tremendous losses had theyonly been honest. .As an American it shames me that those judges love money more than any sort of integrity the fight was not close.And all this "you gotta beat the champ" crap is code for -"we dont want to give your guy the victory under any circumstances unless he scores a ko which is undebatable then""Yeah JMM drank his own piss,but whats that make you?? whats that make pac? hes more than all of you combined he beat this asian clown whos supposed to be "unbeatable" and proved almost every idiot on earth like you dead wrong!JMM and Mexicans EARNED the right to complain we are the largest boxing audience our boxers we also have historically the most world champs overall the most period, and in contention,and we aint having none of this pac being the greatest talk cuz our guy just whooped that ass and the entire world knows it only idiots like you are still debating a crystal clear ass beatdown lol....Jcc douchey wins??? the meldrick taylor win was for pnd for pnd supremacy his record is untouchable by anyone in boxing today,and hes in the guiness book for most championship contests in the history of the sport ,You obviousley hate mexicans sad for you,we make tacos and still can beat your ass or anyone's for that matter,Even at 38 yrs old with every disadvantage conceivable except ring intelligence something pac will NEVER have.

****ing long paragraph is long.

[right hand jab]

Marquez did not went to the ring to win, and yes, he did not win! He was very anxious to get hit and KOed by Pac, so he went on defensive counter-punching posture til the end of 12 rounds affair! He did not show any aggressiveness to win the show. The closed he got tagged Pac was on 5th round but not enough of winning the 12 rounds of course, and much more far from a move of unlocking Pac Myth!

When fighting an opponent like Pacquiao you have to come in with the correct gameplan, one that will take your opponent's strengths and turn it into his weakness. Pacquiao struggles with smart/slick counter-punchers, he knows this, Freddy Roach knows this, everyone knows this and quite obviously so does Marquez. So why would Marquez change his strategy and thereby giving himself an even bigger mountain to climb, all just to convince the likes of you that he'd won!

You also need to bear in mind that the VAST MAJORITY of professional fighters out there (and yes, a lot of them weren't even Mexican!), believed that MARQUEZ WON! When there are SO MANY people who believe a robbery has just taken place, that perhaps can be just put down to fanatical bias on the behalf of the fans, but when SO MANY of those people are actual boxing pro's, what can that lead you to believe?

[FloydPacquiaoJr]

so much jealousy

[BoxingGenius27]

so much jealousy

Sorry, I couldn't read it; think you can make the text bigger for us?

[boxingfan76]

You tell him bruh. While everyone was screaming that Pac would massacre JMM like all of his other mismatch fights prior, I was one of the very few who said Marquez would give Pac a run for his money. shows how many boxing fans there actually are and how many people rode the Manny train. Everyone was caught off guard but I knew Pac has troubles with pure boxers because he is all over the place and wide open. Before I thought Pac could be overwhelmed by size and strength but was wrong because he is too fast for pressure fighters. Patience and counter punching beats Pac..... Been saying it.


10-10-2011, 10:26 AM #98

Old 10-09-2011, 08:33 PM #40

Great call Grust,props for sticking to your guns,I started to beleive the hype and didnt give Juan much of a chance based on the tough fights he had with diaz and katsidis and mayweather,I didnt think Juan would win but I did beleive hed be a factor in the fight.I really never believed in pacs "improvement"he fights just as he did in 2008 and by then he improved all that he was going to.He didnt' improve' the quality of opposition decreased is what happened ,a phoney promotors trick everyone fell for. Hindsight is 20/20 Jmm fighting much faster technically better fighters at litweight and even Floyd kept his timing and game very well prepared for Pac whos been facing non technical slow plodding "bums" for lack of a better word.All the guys that pac fought at welter at one point were good maybe even great fighters at one time ,but certainley not at the time or by the time pac fought them,I always pointed that out but was assailed for it,now folks that said it all along were proven correct,thats whats sweet about boxing its a sport where the truth is exposed sooner or later...Jmm mustve been obsessed and really studied pacs every move,because he read pac like a book,to me pac really wasnt even in the fight he had maybe 3 good rounds and even those werent all that.

[boxingfan76]

so much jealousy

sure dude im sure thats what it is ,thats why the world over is backing JMM and not your guy,its called HONESTY -

http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/1...d-Judge-s-Take