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  • JCaster
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    #121
    Originally posted by BoZz
    duckqiao lost..everyone knows it..the reporters..professional fighters..even most of the pinoys ..except a few *******s from boxingscene...

    *******s 3..2...1....
    after the fight was over i thought and believed JMM won the fight. I was expecting a knockdown but manny didnt deliver, the truth is right after the fight most if not all the fans are disappointed of pacquiao and saw the greatness in JMM because pac didnt deliver what the fans are expecting him to do and thats to KO and finish marquez.

    I watched the fight again and without the expectations and disappontments, i scored it 7-5 pac. yes, it was a cloase fight and it can go either way or a draw.

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    • LeadUppercut
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      #122
      Originally posted by twosweethooks
      OH man , come on, Grustler !!

      You can't even begin to compare Pac and JR.

      The only fight that even compares is the JMM fight where JR cheated, right ?

      WHERE he came in over the weight limit ON PURPOSE and you smile and back up that **** !!!!!!!!!!

      And to beat all he did not KO JMM

      JR DUCKED Cotto in prime and MARGO in prime, this will haunt his legacy forever

      The fighters he fought in the last 6 years were NOT PRIME but one and he looked bad against ORTIZ then out of poor sportsman ship ,,,,,,well WE ALL know the rest of the story.

      Why won't he give the proper rematch ??? HE knows his ass is whupped thats why.

      All of JR's shaggings will catch up to him,

      IF anyone was exposed in the last two fights it was JR.

      All this talk is nothing but bull****

      we just need ole chicken#### to sign up for his whuppin
      *******, explain what is great about Pacquiao, and yes, be specific ^^

      Here is my arguement, if you disagree, then you will need to provide answers to those questions.....

      Originally posted by LeadUppercut
      Stop being so fkn gullible.

      FACT: In order for a win to be significant, or to be genuinely regarded as "great", it would need to be an achievement that could not be matched by anybody else. If "anyone" could have beaten the guy, then how could the achievement be regarded as great?

      NAME ONE FIGHTER THAT PACQUIAO BEAT WHO WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BEATEN BY A NUMBER OF GUYS IN HIS OWN DIVISION.

      Name just one.

      Then tell me how the *** that makes Pacquiao " great " ?

      Martinez, nobody at MW could have beaten Pavlik or Williams, they were #1 and #2 for a reason.

      Diaz - anybody could have beaten him, get real.

      Hoya - get real, that was an exhibition match and a total fkn joke. Old, shot, drained, shrink-wrapped, 145lb Hoya would have lost to EVERY top welter, MOST top jww's, and a number of lightweights. Even Marquez would have knocked him the *** out - get real.

      Hatton - was never a top fighter, and he was a cracked egg when Pacquiao fought him. He was highly vulnerable, a number of jww's could have beaten Hatton when Pac fought him, as would a number of top lightweights, he struggled with Collazo, Urango, Lazcano, and had just had his clock cleaned by Mayweather - get real, Marquez would have killed him.

      Cotto - had just been wrecked by Margarito and battered by Clottey. He was about 4th / 5th in the division at that stage, he was highly vulnerable and ripe for the picking, and..... Pac tried to drain him on the scales. Any of the top welters would have beaten that shot 145lb version of Cotto..... Marquez would have decisioned him easily.

      Clottey - this bum is a perennial underachiever who has failed at every hurdle. He is a basic fighter with a limited skillset who for some strange reason chose not to fight back..... that fight was a sparring session designed to make Pacquiao look good, and anybody could pass that test.

      Margarito - just *** off, that fight was disgusting. That fight was held for a jmw title, and yet Margarito was a faded welterweight bum who would have been beaten by EVERY top jmw, EVERY top welter, and anyone with good stamina/skills who uses movement - get real.

      Mosley - Pacquiao ducked Mosley TWICE when Shane was ranked the #1 welter, and only decided to fight him after he suffered an ugly draw with Mora - SO GET REAL. Mosley had been exposed as shot and being unable to pull the trigger by Mayweather, and then uglied by Mora, he was clearly shot, and THE ENTIRE WORLD knew that he was shot and could no longer pull the trigger, which is the only reason why "padded" Pacquiao finally decided to fight him - get real.

      There is nothing great about the "achievements" listed above, and Manny had certainly not achieved traditional greatness before the highly controversial win/loss to Marquez in 2008.

      It is ABSOLUTELY FKN ABSURD to mention Pacquiao alongside greats like Moore, Duran, and Armstrong. Ridiculous fanboy ****.

      One word..... HYPE-JOB !!

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      • mrjoeblive
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        #123
        Originally posted by Check_hooks
        Manny's right as usual but that doesn't apply in this case because he won 10 rounds to 2
        hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you are funnier than eddie murphy, chris rock, richard pryor, and chris tucker all rolled up into one. i dont know what fight you were watching. because it wasnt the fight every one else saw. another cartoon, silly post from a man who got caught with too many check hooks

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        • twosweethooks
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          #124
          Originally posted by LeadUppercut
          *******, explain what is great about Pacquiao, and yes, be specific ^^

          Here is my arguement, if you disagree, then you will need to provide answers to those questions.....
          ******* ? haha You are eat up with the dumbworms !!

          LETS compare JR vs PAC

          Pac came from dire conditions Jr came from a boxing family no doubt well to do.

          Pac starved when he started fighting Jr was groomed as an amateur going to the Olympics

          Pac fought for food money Jr was groomed by Arum your man to be a champion

          Pac struggled without skills but with the heart of a dead game bulldog while Jr cherrypicked thru opponents

          Pac won his first championship inspite of his conditions Jr did his first by the grooming your man Arum chose for him

          Pac finally hooked up with Roach and the rest is history, going thru weight class after weight class winning every fight but one , MORALES the GREAT but avenged that loss by two KO's

          JR over the last 6 years has yet to face a top contender but ducked, retired fought little men OLD MEN and one wee little man and then cheated on him

          Pac has won 8 world champeenships 4 of which are lineal

          NO ONE IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING Has accomplished what Pac has accomplished

          You may go back to yer hole down under

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            #125
            Originally posted by -Lowkey-
            Manny Pacquiao is a very simple minded man I can’t really take much of what that guy says seriously.

            This is the same guy who is against the use of contraception in his homeland because ‘it goes against the teachings of the bible’. The guy has been in America half of his life and has yet to grasp the English language to the standard of an 8 year old dyslexic. I hope his popularity doesn’t elevate him into more power in his country its always dangerous to have ******/simpleminded people in positions of power.
            ouch!!!!!!!!!

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            • mrjoeblive
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              #126
              Originally posted by twosweethooks
              ******* ? haha You are eat up with the dumbworms !!

              LETS compare JR vs PAC

              Pac came from dire conditions Jr came from a boxing family no doubt well to do.

              Pac starved when he started fighting Jr was groomed as an amateur going to the Olympics

              Pac fought for food money Jr was groomed by Arum your man to be a champion

              Pac struggled without skills but with the heart of a dead game bulldog while Jr cherrypicked thru opponents

              Pac won his first championship inspite of his conditions Jr did his first by the grooming your man Arum chose for him

              Pac finally hooked up with Roach and the rest is history, going thru weight class after weight class winning every fight but one , MORALES the GREAT but avenged that loss by two KO's

              JR over the last 6 years has yet to face a top contender but ducked, retired fought little men OLD MEN and one wee little man and then cheated on him

              Pac has won 8 world champeenships 4 of which are lineal

              NO ONE IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING Has accomplished what Pac has accomplished

              You may go back to yer hole down under
              hooks do you really think that fight of pac v margarito for the 154lb strap was legit? neither man had a fight at that wt class. so how do they jump over all the men that deserved a shot at the title? and remember pac flat out said he would not fight yuri forman even though roach wanted him to. honestly do you consider that a legit title fight?

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              • NECK SNAPPER
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                #127
                pacman needs to fight mayweather we all saw jmm vs pac three times.
                10 fights wont settle anything anyway.

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                • -Kev-
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                  #128
                  At least win the fight to begin with then.

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                  • LeadUppercut
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by twosweethooks
                    ******* ? haha You are eat up with the dumbworms !!

                    LETS compare JR vs PAC

                    Pac came from dire conditions Jr came from a boxing family no doubt well to do.

                    Pac starved when he started fighting Jr was groomed as an amateur going to the Olympics

                    Pac fought for food money Jr was groomed by Arum your man to be a champion

                    Pac struggled without skills but with the heart of a dead game bulldog while Jr cherrypicked thru opponents

                    Pac won his first championship inspite of his conditions Jr did his first by the grooming your man Arum chose for him

                    Pac finally hooked up with Roach and the rest is history, going thru weight class after weight class winning every fight but one , MORALES the GREAT but avenged that loss by two KO's

                    JR over the last 6 years has yet to face a top contender but ducked, retired fought little men OLD MEN and one wee little man and then cheated on him

                    Pac has won 8 world champeenships 4 of which are lineal

                    NO ONE IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING Has accomplished what Pac has accomplished

                    You may go back to yer hole down under
                    Forget all of your fanboy dribble dude, and forget Mayweather.

                    Unless, you are saying that Mayweather is the GOAT, and is therefore the measuring stick for greatness?

                    Forget Mayweather, because he is not relevant to this discussion.

                    Tell me what Pac has done that could be regarded as " great " ?

                    And be specific.

                    It is about time that you fanboys stepped up to the plate, so lets do this.

                    Tell me what Pac has done that could be regarded as " great " ?

                    Surely you must know ?

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                    • LeadUppercut
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                      #130
                      Stop being so fkn gullible dude.

                      FACT: In order for a win to be significant, or to be genuinely regarded as "great", it would need to be an achievement that could not be matched by anybody else. If "anyone" could have beaten the guy, then how could the achievement be regarded as great?

                      NAME ONE FIGHTER THAT PACQUIAO BEAT WHO WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BEATEN BY A NUMBER OF GUYS IN HIS OWN DIVISION.

                      Name just one.

                      Then tell me how the *** that makes Pacquiao " great " ?

                      Martinez, nobody at MW could have beaten Pavlik or Williams, they were #1 and #2 for a reason.

                      Diaz - anybody could have beaten him, get real.

                      Hoya - get real, that was an exhibition match and a total fkn joke. Old, shot, drained, shrink-wrapped, 145lb Hoya would have lost to EVERY top welter, MOST top jww's, and a number of lightweights. Even Marquez would have knocked him the *** out - get real.

                      Hatton - was never a top fighter, and he was a cracked egg when Pacquiao fought him. He was highly vulnerable, a number of jww's could have beaten Hatton when Pac fought him, as would a number of top lightweights, he struggled with Collazo, Urango, Lazcano, and had just had his clock cleaned by Mayweather - get real, Marquez would have killed him.

                      Cotto - had just been wrecked by Margarito and battered by Clottey. He was about 4th / 5th in the division at that stage, he was highly vulnerable and ripe for the picking, and..... Pac tried to drain him on the scales. Any of the top welters would have beaten that shot 145lb version of Cotto..... Marquez would have decisioned him easily.

                      Clottey - this bum is a perennial underachiever who has failed at every hurdle. He is a basic fighter with a limited skillset who for some strange reason chose not to fight back..... that fight was a sparring session designed to make Pacquiao look good, and anybody could pass that test.

                      Margarito - just *** off, that fight was disgusting. That fight was held for a jmw title, and yet Margarito was a faded welterweight bum who would have been beaten by EVERY top jmw, EVERY top welter, and anyone with good stamina/skills who uses movement - get real.

                      Mosley - Pacquiao ducked Mosley TWICE when Shane was ranked the #1 welter, and only decided to fight him after he suffered an ugly draw with Mora - SO GET REAL. Mosley had been exposed as shot and being unable to pull the trigger by Mayweather, and then uglied by Mora, he was clearly shot, and THE ENTIRE WORLD knew that he was shot and could no longer pull the trigger, which is the only reason why "padded" Pacquiao finally decided to fight him - get real.

                      There is nothing great about the "achievements" listed above, and Manny had certainly not achieved traditional greatness before the highly controversial win/loss to Marquez in 2008.

                      It is ABSOLUTELY FKN ABSURD to mention Pacquiao alongside greats like Moore, Duran, and Armstrong. Ridiculous fanboy ****.

                      One word..... HYPE-JOB !!

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