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Originally posted by thoughtsss View PostHatton undefeated got KO'd by Floyd and then Hatton's comeback fight he looks like shlt then Manny fights him. Mosley KO's Cheato and looks good then Floyd whips Shanes azz, then Shane can't even beat Mora and then Manny fights Shane. Floyd fights ODLH at 154 beats him then Manny fights him at 147 a weight that Oscar hadn't fought at since 01 but Oscar comes in at 145. I see a pattern too.
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Originally posted by thoughtsss View PostHatton undefeated got KO'd by Floyd and then Hatton's comeback fight he looks like shlt then Manny fights him. Mosley KO's Cheato and looks good then Floyd whips Shanes azz, then Shane can't even beat Mora and then Manny fights Shane. Floyd fights ODLH at 154 beats him then Manny fights him at 147 a weight that Oscar hadn't fought at since 01 but Oscar comes in at 145. I see a pattern too.
Hatton didn't want to kil himself after the Floyd fight.....he told the papers that the Pac fight made him almost do it. ODLH didn't start coming out with all these cross dressing pics and talks of suicide after the Mayweather fight, it was after the Pac fight. Clottey hasn't fought since the Pac fight and talked about retiring, Pac nearly retired Margarito too......I don't care either way but the facts are the facts.
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Originally posted by mathed View PostFloyd didn't beat up on Clottey or Cotto........Floyd isn't ruining guys, the majority of Floyd's opponents had losses before he fought them in the first place.
Hatton didn't want to kil himself after the Floyd fight.....he told the papers that the Pac fight made him almost do it. ODLH didn't start coming out with all these cross dressing pics and talks of suicide after the Mayweather fight, it was after the Pac fight. Clottey hasn't fought since the Pac fight and talked about retiring, Pac nearly retired Margarito too......I don't care either way but the facts are the facts.
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Originally posted by thoughtsss View PostClottey who? OHH the Clottey that Cotto beat right before the Manny fight in which Cotto was basicly fighting him with 1 eye from the 3rd round on yet Clottey couldn't finish him off. I woulda considered the Cotto fight legit had it been at 147 but to bad it wasn't.
They would prefer to believe that Manny beat a prime Hoya, a prime Hatton, a prime Cotto, a prime Margarito, a prime Mosley..... instead of the faded old men those guys had become.
If something happens once, it is a coincidence, if something happens twice, it could still be coincidence..... but when something happens 8 consecutive times..... then, THAT IS A PLAN !!
This is a re-post, but it sums up the problem imho.
Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostAnd stop being so fkn gullible, ya dumb kid.
FACT: In order for a win to be significant, or to be genuinely regarded as "great", it would need to be an achievement that could not be matched by anybody else. If "anyone" could have beaten the guy, then how could the achievement be regarded as great?
NAME ONE FIGHTER THAT PACQUIAO BEAT WHO WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BEATEN BY A NUMBER OF GUYS IN HIS OWN DIVISION.
Name just one.
Then tell me how the *** that makes Pacquiao " great " ?
Martinez, nobody at MW could have beaten Pavlik or Williams, they were #1 and #2 for a reason.
Diaz - anybody could have beaten him, get real.
Hoya - get real, that was an exhibition match and a total fkn joke. Old, shot, drained, shrink-wrapped, 145lb Hoya would have lost to EVERY top welter, MOST top jww's, and a number of lightweights. Even Marquez would have knocked him the *** out - get real.
Hatton - was never a top fighter, and he was a cracked egg when Pacquiao fought him. He was highly vulnerable, a number of jww's could have beaten Hatton when Pac fought him, as would a number of top lightweights, he struggled with Collazo, Urango, Lazcano, and had just had his clock cleaned by Mayweather - get real, Marquez would have killed him.
Cotto - had just been wrecked by Margarito and battered by Clottey. He was about 4th / 5th in the division at that stage, he was highly vulnerable and ripe for the picking, and..... Pac tried to drain him on the scales. Any of the top welters would have beaten that shot 145lb version of Cotto..... Marquez would have decisioned him easily.
Clottey - this bum is a perennial underachiever who has failed at every hurdle. He is a basic fighter with a limited skillset who for some strange reason chose not to fight back..... that fight was a sparring session designed to make Pacquiao look good, and anybody could pass that test.
Margarito - just *** off, that fight was disgusting. That fight was held for a jmw title, and yet Margarito was a faded welterweight bum who would have been beaten by EVERY top jmw, EVERY top welter, and anyone with good stamina/skills who uses movement - get real.
Mosley - Pacquiao ducked Mosley TWICE when Shane was ranked the #1 welter, and only decided to fight him after he suffered an ugly draw with Mora - SO GET REAL. Mosley had been exposed as shot and being unable to pull the trigger by Mayweather, and then uglied by Mora, he was clearly shot, and THE ENTIRE WORLD knew that he was shot and could no longer pull the trigger, which is the only reason why "padded" Pacquiao finally decided to fight him - get real.
There is nothing great about the "achievements" listed above, and Manny had certainly not achieved traditional greatness before the highly controversial win/loss to Marquez in 2008.
It is ABSOLUTELY FKN ABSURD to mention Pacquiao alongside greats like Moore, Duran, and Armstrong. Ridiculous fanboy ****.
One word..... HYPE-JOB !!
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