Simple question or margarito defenders

[~AK49~]

If margarito truly did not know that his wraps were loaded for the mosley fight, how would he know they were not loaded for the cotto fight? Simple question, should be a simple answer.


And yet, margarito confidently says his wraps were not loaded in the cotto fight...how would he know? Tbh, it made my blood boil in that 24/7 when they were showing him that pic, and he goes 'oh that cotto, always crying and making excuses'. What a p.o.s., If he truly did not know his wraps were loaded, he should recognize the very real possibility that they were loaded(unknowingly) against Cotto. And loaded gloves in boxing is no ***n joke.

He is acting like a criminal, and he did know. Sorry for another marg thread.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

If margarito truly did not know that his wraps were loaded for the mosley fight, how would he know they were not loaded for the cotto fight? Simple question, should be a simple answer.


And yet, margarito confidently says his wraps were not loaded in the cotto fight...how would he know? Tbh, it made my blood boil in that 24/7 when they were showing him that pic, and he goes 'oh that cotto, always crying and making excuses'. What a p.o.s., If he truly did not know his wraps were loaded, he should recognize the very real possibility that they were loaded(unknowingly) against Cotto. And loaded gloves in boxing is no ***n joke.

He is acting like a criminal, and he did know. Sorry for another marg thread.

Very easy answer, Nevada supplies all the gauze and the tape, so in order to get a pre made pad with plaster you have to be pretty ****ing good.
California at the time he fought Mosley did not supply the gauze and tape there for anything that came out of a gym bag would be a normal night at the fights.
However in Nevada its not the same, they monitor your every move in that dressing room while the hands are being wrapped and the gloves are put on california is known for having a ****ed commission

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Let me ask you what from the Cotto fight makes you think he had loaded wraps? is it because Miguel Lost?

[~AK49~]

Very easy answer, Nevada supplies all the gauze and the tape, so in order to get a pre made pad with plaster you have to be pretty ****ing good.
California at the time he fought Mosley did not supply the gauze and tape there for anything that came out of a gym bag would be a normal night at the fights.
However in Nevada its not the same, they monitor your every move in that dressing room while the hands are being wrapped and the gloves are put on california is known for having a ****ed commission

*Theoretically they monitor your every move. Theoretically they are also big on punching a guy when he is down, yet marg was able to get away with that also. Nonetheless, your response is interesting, so are you saying he knew he didnt have the wraps because he was aware of the situation(commision eagle eyeing it)?

I still fail to see how he can say he didnt have loaded wraps when he says he couldnt tell he had loaded wraps in the mosley fight. His story is **** imo, and his teams story has been **** from day 1.

---He may be telling the truth about the cotto situation, but somewhere along the line he is lying.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

*Theoretically they monitor your every move. Theoretically they are also big on punching a guy when he is down, yet marg was able to get away with that also. Nonetheless, your response is interesting, so are you saying he knew he didnt have the wraps because he was aware of the situation(commision eagle eyeing it)?

I still fail to see how he can say he didnt have loaded wraps when he says he couldnt tell he had loaded wraps in the mosley fight. His story is **** imo, and his teams story has been **** from day 1.

---He may be telling the truth about the cotto situation, but somewhere along the line he is lying.

Thats because he did not have loaded wraps for the mosley bout neither, he had a old pad that was either used from the Cotto fight or in the gym and when you set those pads aside after using them over night they get hard.

for example it works just like your Kitchen Sponge after you ring out the water over night what happens? same thing with a gauze pad.

it was firm but bendable as described by the CSAC, ****m said it was a block which we never saw a block what we have here is a trainer playing mind games that got out of control and basically destroyed an innocent mans career

[Strike Back]

I miss Maya's responses sometimes (no ****). He would just jump into a Tony thread and make it about this conspiriacy to hold the Mexican down and goverment cover-ups.

He would be all over this thread.

[~AK49~]

Let me ask you what from the Cotto fight makes you think he had loaded wraps? is it because Miguel Lost?

Cotto has taken big shots, speccifically mosley, well. Yes marg has power, but he wasnt throwing anything big...yet halway through the fight was able to get cotto to cower. Alot of anectodal evidence, but imo the majority of the signs point there.

But, thats neither here nor there to me. The fact remains, margarito was able to take cottos shots(whether or not marg had the psychological advantage of knowing he had bad wraps, and just needed time). Cotto's body work was ****, and from margs pressure cotto gassed out earlier than he would normally. This fight is gonna be another war, if cotto does what he is supposed to do, he could win. If he doesnt, marg could very well win aswell.

[j.one]

I think they all know, after all the video we were subjected to this week regarding hand wraps and the proper way vs cheating etc. I think it's fair to say all these guys know what the deal is and simply do not care.

I have always stood by the statement "There is no proof he used wraps in the Cotto fight". I stood by that because there is simply no way of knowing for sure being that Cotto's corner refused to check the wraps.

Does that mean i don't think he used them? Absolutely not, I have no proof either way but as an adult and as a fan of many years I choose to believe that in all likelihood he did use them in that fight and presumably in many others.

That's just my opinion.

I also have always felt since seeing the fight that Cotto cannot beat Margarito under any circumstances.

Cotto was on his "A" game that night, I had never seen him look sharper, accurate and quick. He seemed to have power but Margarito was the only one who didn't notice, at all.

Sad thing is had Margarito never used/got caught using wraps his best win wouldn't be a stain on the sport. I believe he would have walked Cotto down either way.

I'm a fan of neither fighter, I was looking forward to the rematch but now as we can all see this is gonna be a scam from the start, all this bull**** now and we aren't even to the weigh in. I'm not wasting one cent on this ****, Top Rank is looking real shady right now and this fight just adds to it, ****'em i'll watch for free later.

[~AK49~]

Thats because he did not have loaded wraps for the mosley bout neither, he had a old pad that was either used from the Cotto fight or in the gym and when you set those pads aside after using them over night they get hard.

for example it works just like your Kitchen Sponge after you ring out the water over night what happens? same thing with a gauze pad.

it was firm but bendable as described by the CSAC, ****m said it was a block which we never saw a block what we have here is a trainer playing mind games that got out of control and basically destroyed an innocent mans career

I could be wrong, but i thought i remember them confirming there was in fact the chemicals for plaster of paris? Calcium sulfate maybe?

Whatever the case is, he tried to get into the ring with hardened gauze, i.e. loaded gloves. I dont really have much to say about ****m story

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Cotto has taken big shots, speccifically mosley, well. Yes marg has power, but he wasnt throwing anything big...yet halway through the fight was able to get cotto to cower. Alot of anectodal evidence, but imo the majority of the signs point there.

But, thats neither here nor there to me. The fact remains, margarito was able to take cottos shots(whether or not marg had the psychological advantage of knowing he had bad wraps, and just needed time). Cotto's body work was ****, and from margs pressure cotto gassed out earlier than he would normally. This fight is gonna be another war, if cotto does what he is supposed to do, he could win. If he doesnt, marg could very well win aswell.

Mosley did not lay the body assault on Cotto that Margarito did early and often in their fight he did body work late and it showed good results had he went there in the early rounds he could have taken that fight.

The way Cotto wins this fight is by doing what Mosley and Manny did, you dont move as much as Cotto did when he fought Tony last time, you step around him half steps and nail him before he resets if you watch the mosley fight Shane did this over and over ran off his shots stepped around hit Tony before Tony could reset.

However Tony killed himself to make weight for that fight, spent a little too much time celebrating that Cotto win