Froch vs. Dawson @ 175.

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  • UglyPug
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    #11
    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
    I agree bro,but Froch has to show he can beat a young athletic fighter like Ward before I'd buy he can tango with a much bigger and athletic fighter like Dawson...
    Dont you think Dawson also has to show he can beat a fast, young athletic fighter? Last I checked he hasn't. . . and last time i checked Froch pretty clearly put a whooping on the guy that absolutely schooled Dawson. .

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      #12
      Dawson also fights NOTHING like Dirrell. . . He's not nearly as fast and slippery as Dirrell. . . and Froch was in a very close fight with Dirrell. . . I thought dirrell nicked it, but it wasn't a schooling or a dominant victory

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        #13
        Originally posted by uglypug
        but ward and dawson are not even CLOSE to being the same style of fighter?
        Your right but both are young athletic fighters,and Froch is not that athletic at all..Froch had trouble with Dirrell(another Athletic fighter)and Taylor..Just wanna see how he deals with Ward before I can really say he can beat Dawson who imo is more talented(I think Ward is more skilled)then Ward..

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          #14
          Originally posted by uglypug
          Dont you think Dawson also has to show he can beat a fast, young athletic fighter? Last I checked he hasn't. . . and last time i checked Froch pretty clearly put a whooping on the guy that absolutely schooled Dawson. .
          You are right,Froch beat Pascal and Pascal kicked Dawson's azz..But you know as well as I do,styles make fights...

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            #15
            Froch is athletic. . . He is just as athletic as Dawson . . not as fast, but has better reflexes and better, more coordinated feet. . . Also a lot more intelligent in the ring and able to adapt.

            I thought Dawson looked very unathletic compared to Pascal, who is athletic. . .

            I guess I think Froch's style is one that can beat a "one plan" type of fighter like Dawson who can't make adjustments. . .

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              #16
              wow, froch seems to be getting alot more credit than i think he deserves.

              i think froch is a good fighter but i don't think he is as athletically gifted as say dirrell or dawson, i don't think his co-ordination and skills are all that neither.

              don't get me wrong hes a good fighter but i just think hes not as good as some people make him out to be.

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                #17
                Originally posted by uglypug
                Who do you favor? With the crop of super middleweights likely soon moving to 175, we got a lot of exciting fights awaiting us!

                This is a VERY evenly matched fight IMO. . . Dawson has the speed advantage, but Froch has the ring IQ advantage and timing advantage. . . His reflexes make up for his lack of speed. . . Power is about the same (assuming Froch probably carries his punch up with him). . . Froch has the range and reach to match and negate Dawson's. . . Froch has a better jab that comes up at an awkward angle. . . Dawson more technically sound, while Froch is more of a "read and react" kind of guy who is more capable of making adjustments. . .


                I favor Froch in a close fight. . .
                respectfully i disagree. Dirrell made Froch look very average in a stinker that he actually won, but couldn't be given the decision in because it was such a stinker and he was on Froch's home turf. Dawson is bigger, stronger, just as fast and hits harder than Dirrell, and he also boxes better. Froch would get annihilated. It would be 12 to ZIP.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by hookoutofhell
                  wow, froch seems to be getting alot more credit than i think he deserves.

                  i think froch is a good fighter but i don't think he is as athletically gifted as say dirrell or dawson, i don't think his co-ordination and skills are all that neither.

                  don't get me wrong hes a good fighter but i just think hes not as good as some people make him out to be.

                  I had Kessler and Dirrel beating Froch. Taylor gave him alot of problems before succumbing to his usual fatigue, and Pascal is overrated and would get smoked by Dawson in a rematch. Froch is a durable, big and strong 68 pounder with some explosiveness and good qualities, but he will get ripped badly in this fight at 175. I still think Ward and Bute might be better at 168.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by check hook
                    respectfully i disagree. Dirrell made Froch look very average in a stinker that he actually won, but couldn't be given the decision in because it was such a stinker and he was on Froch's home turf. Dawson is bigger, stronger, just as fast and hits harder than Dirrell, and he also boxes better. Froch would get annihilated. It would be 12 to ZIP.
                    more or less agree with that 100%. i think froch would make it interesting, but i think it would be a very easy decision for dawson.

                    if froch needs to have a chance he needs to be able to dig to dawsons body. but then again i've never seen froch lauch a sustained body attack.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by uglypug
                      Look at the guys Froch has beat, compared to the guys Dawson has beat. . . Dawson isn't as fast as some people give gim credit for. .. He looked SLOW and PLODDING against Pascal. .. He looked VERY HITTABLE against GLen Johnson both times. . . Aside from his win over Adamek, JUST WHAT HAS DAWSON DONE?

                      Im not hating on Dawson, I like him, and I like Scully. . . I hope Scully can help him. . . But ultimately it's up to the fighter. . . Just look how horrible he looked against Pascal - THE FIRST FIGHTER he fought who didn't stand still and come forward in STRAIGHT LINES. . .


                      Objectively Tarver, Johnson (at that time) and Adamek are better than anyone on Froch's resume.

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