If Margarito Knocks Cotto Out again......

[hookoutofhell]

It would damage Cotto's legacy BIG TIME. Cotto and Margarito both are really one big win away from being ATG's of their era, but the winner of this fight may be remembered as a ATG of their era, and the other probably won't. With that said, neither guy is in their prime, but Margarito is past his prime and not even that good anymore at all. The last time we saw Margarito somewhat prime was against Mosley in early 09', and he faded fast after getting KO'd by Mosley. The last time we saw a prime Cotto was in 08' against Margarito, and he has faded since, but not as quickly as Margarito has. However, Cotto is close to not even being that good anymore, and I would favor Kirkland, Lara, and Alvarez to beat him at this point.

I think Cotto will win a UD over Margarito though.

What's sad is the first Margarito fight really damaged Cotto. No matter what Pacquiao fans try and say, Cotto hasn't been that good or prime since that fight, not even close. After that fight, Cotto beat a no name in Jennings, arguably got beat and looked awful against a past prime Clottey, got killed by Pacquiao, beat an unproven prime Foreman, and beat a past prime Mayorga. He hasn't really done much.

i don't get it you say margarito and cotto are knocking on the door for being ATG's but later on in your post you then confirm that cotoos has not reall had a dominant victory over another HOF'er.

i'd say that cotto is going to take the KO in this fight. i just think margarito is spent now, the beating at the hands of pacman and SSM would have taken alot out of him.

cotto seems to be slightly re-invigorated by moving to 154 and not only that he has a score to settle with margarito.

i'd say that cotto is going to be ranked higher than margarito in the all time stakes.

[Da Boxer]

If Cotto get's KTFO he will retire. I bet my "small" furtune on that! But no worries, Cotto will beat Margarito and come out victorious!

[4Corners]

i don't get it you say margarito and cotto are knocking on the door for being ATG's but later on in your post you then confirm that cotoos has not reall had a dominant victory over another HOF'er.

i'd say that cotto is going to take the KO in this fight. i just think margarito is spent now, the beating at the hands of pacman and SSM would have taken alot out of him.

cotto seems to be slightly re-invigorated by moving to 154 and not only that he has a score to settle with margarito.

i'd say that cotto is going to be ranked higher than margarito in the all time stakes.

No, I was just saying that he hasn't done all that much since Margarito KO'd him. If Cotto beats Margarito, event hough Antonio is past it by far, and than were to beat Kirkland or Lara, I'd consider him an ATG, although not nearly as high on that list as others. Same goes for Margarito, if he beats Cotto again, and than went on to beat Kirkland or Lara, I'd consider him an ATG. But, regardless of the winner of Cotto-Margarito II, I don't see either one of them getting another really big win in their careers, therefore I don't think I will ever consider them ATG's, same as Ricky Hatton. I think the loser of this fight will retire.

I think Cotto will ultimately go down as better than Margarito as well.

If Cotto gets another big win in his career, his legacy as an ATG will be sealed, but I don't see it happening.

Cotto's big fights
2004: Bailey- W TKO6
2005: Corley- W TKO5
2006: Malignaggi- W UD12
2006: Quintana- W TKO5
2007: Judah- W TKO11
2007: Mosley- W UD12
2008: Margarito- L TKO11
2009: Clottey- W SD12
2009: Pacquiao- L TKO12
2010: Foreman- W TKO9
2011: Margarito II- ?????

If he beats Margarito this time around, and grabs a big win over Kirkland or Lara, I'd consider him an ATG. It probably won't happen though.

Margarito's big fights
2000: Martinez- W TKO7
2001: Santos- NC 1
2002: Diaz- W TKO10
2003: Lewis- W TKO2
2004: Santos- L TD10
2005: Cintron- W TKO5
2006: Clottey- W UD12
2007: Williams- L UD12
2008: Cintron- W KO6
2008: Cotto- W TKO11
2009: Mosley- L TKO9
2010: Pacquiao- L UD12
2011: Cotto- ????

Margarito has always been up and down his entire career it seems like. He beats Sergio, although Martinez was not as known back then, than beats Siaz and Lewis (2 good fighters at the time), and than drops a fight to Santos. Than, he comes back with big wins over a prime Cintron and Clottey, b ut then gets beaten by Williams. After that, he comes back with big wins over Cintron again and than Cotto, only to get KO'd by Mosley and than get destroyed by Pacquiao. If he were to come back and beat Cotto again, and than go on to get another big win (Kirkland or Lara?), I'd say he's an ATG, and I'd have to put him ahead of Cotto all-time.

What people really forget about is how good Paul Williams once was.

[ANDROIDISM]

Will he give Marg his due respect or will he continue to say his dog is more human than Margarito is, and that the black thread from the glove on his wrap is a crack that show the wraps were loaded?

who gives a crap what Cotto does or says. I don't think margarito gives a flying szit about what cotto thinks. Margarito would just smile at him and say something like "you want to keep my wraps" or "how did you like this beating again"

Cotto has put himself in a bad spot with his words. he's put himself in a position where HE HAS to win or he will look like a complete idiot.

[MeiXiang]

If Margarito managed to beat Cotto, Cotto probably still wouldn't give Margarito any respect. Fine - he may have beat him fair and square in the second meeting but he and many of us believe he had loaded gloves the first time. Beaten fair and square the second time doesn't redeem you and the respect is always lost for a fighter who has cheated in the past - it's what brings the sport into disrepute.

[ANDROIDISM]

If Margarito managed to beat Cotto, Cotto probably still wouldn't give Margarito any respect. Fine - he may have beat him fair and square in the second meeting but he and many of us believe he had loaded gloves the first time. Beaten fair and square the second time doesn't redeem you and the respect is always lost for a fighter who has cheated in the past - it's what brings the sport into disrepute.

umm no you couldn't be more wrong. This is cotto's fight to prove that he is better than margarito and to prove margarito cheated in the first fight.

If cotto losses again all his claims go out the window and people with good reason will believe margarito didn't cheat. Why should they believe otherwise if margarito beat him again?

[Nuurzhaelan]

Will he give Marg his due respect or will he continue to say his dog is more human than Margarito is, and that the black thread from the glove on his wrap is a crack that show the wraps were loaded?

I would give him credit, but not respect. I just don't like him. He tried to cheat and then lied about having any knowledge of it. And because he has denied even vague or tangential knowledge means that he cannot or will not apologize for it. He is scum.

He is not the most evil person in the world, and it may even be absurd to charge him with being evil at all given the spectrum of truly evil and heinous things people do to one another in this world every day, but I still deplore him. I suppose that I will have to view Schrödinger's wraps as both legal and not until we are able to reverse time and view them directly after the fight.

[Nuurzhaelan]

He probably would give Tony his respect.

But at that point, who cares what Cotto thinks? Tony would have already proved was an innocent man, if Cotto admits it or not.

Honestly, I cannot wait to hear what excuse Cotto fans will have. If the fight happens in NYC. Everything will be against Tony, it will be a pro-Cotto crowd, Tony is going with one eye, bookies will probably be against Tony.

But on all that, if he comes out victorious, a lot of people on here owe him an apology.

'Proof' is impossible at this point. He's already been proved to be guilty...what remains is the judgement on all of his fights prior to the Mosley fight. If he wins against Cotto it *proves* nothing except that he was better on December 3.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Will he give Marg his due respect or will he continue to say his dog is more human than Margarito is, and that the black thread from the glove on his wrap is a crack that show the wraps were loaded?

He will Cotto needs to mentally believe he was cheated in order to win thats all he has to hold on to in order to gain any type of mental advantage but once he finds out he was beat fair and square you will see it during the fight and Cotto will quit again

BTW I looked into that crack on his wrap from 24/7 its not a black thread its actually marker from a sharpie from a member of the commission who signed off on the wrap making a vid to expose this truth

[Sin City]

I dont see how beating a man again after having hit him with plaster proves any innocence.
Margarito was already found to be a cheater during the Mosley fight.

If Cotto beats him, he gets his moral victory..
If Margarito beats him, it just shows that he could've beat him without the plaster..
it doesn't mean he didn't wear it on that night though.