Can you imagine what people would say about Pernell Whitaker if he fought today?

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I meant to say it was a recent title given to AA boxers

Plus you just mean elusiveness. JCC and Barrera have some of the best timing in history but took a whole lotta punches. But I guess they are not boxers because they didn't fight like pernell

Timing, accuracy, elusiveness, etc. are all qualities that make an excellent boxer. Not all boxers have great defense, case in point JMM.

[Russian Crushin]

Boxing is about whatever boxer can enforce their style/will on the other. Being a better boxer doesn't equal a victory. Just look at what happened with Dawson vs Pascal.

Thank you for back up the point that I'm making

[Russian Crushin]

Timing, accuracy, elusiveness, etc. are all qualities that make an excellent boxer. Not all boxers have great defense, case in point JMM.

But JMM gets hit ALOT. And according to you, boxing is hit and not get hit. So how can a guy who gets hit as much as anyone in boxing be a good boxer?

[$tate of Mind]

Thank you for back up the point that I'm making

And what point was that? You've proven nothing.

[$tate of Mind]

But JMM gets hit ALOT. And according to you, boxing is hit and not get hit. So how can a guy who gets hit as much as anyone in boxing be a good boxer?

You can be a good boxer and not have great defense. JMM's timing is impeccable and he's a very accurate counter puncher. He doesn't go into fights looking to brawl and go blow for blow. Furthermore, Marquez is very intelligent and able to make adjustments on the fly. Does he get hit a lot? Yes he does, but he's still a very good boxer, wouldn't you agree?

[BigStereotype]

Except Pernell was pretty damn aggressive. He fought off the back foot and had excellent defense, but he had a high work rate.

[$tate of Mind]

Lol @ this Russian dude gettin salty. He wishes his favorite fighters fought like Pernell

I don't know what's so hard to understand about this

[$tate of Mind]

Except Pernell was pretty damn aggressive. He fought off the back foot and had excellent defense, but he had a high work rate.

Exactly, there are many layers to a boxer.

[Russian Crushin]

You can be a good boxer and not have great defense. JMM's timing is impeccable and he's a very accurate counter puncher. He doesn't go into fights looking to brawl and go blow for blow. Furthermore, Marquez is very intelligent and able to make adjustments on the fly. Does he get hit a lot? Yes he does, but he's still a very good boxer, wouldn't you agree?

Yes I believe JMM is one if the best boxers. But that's not the point you nor I are making

According to your OP, boxing is "hit and not get hit". So how can JMM be a good boxer if he gets hit soo much?

[TintaBoricua]

Doesn't mean people's thoughts about him would have changed. Point is majority of people found him boring, just like Ivan Calderon.

And people don't appreciate boxing because they don't like his style? pa-lease! Boxing is a sport Of endless styles! His style does not represent boxing

Ooooooooooooh, noooooooooooooooo...

*Stamps with the dumbass stamp several times*

How dare you, sir?

Pernell wasn't beaten convincingly until he was past his prime...