Martinez/Kirkland?

**BoxingGenius27** · 11-16-2011, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by fistandfury

I have a question for my fellow fans. Why won't Martinez entertain the notion of a title defense against James Kirkland? I know, he is in line to face Julio Jr but who the heck is that guy. Is Mexican TV money really worth your reputation as a top pound for pounder? Julio is a club fighter that Martinez is dying to feast on. The word is however, that Dibella does not want the Kirkland fight right now. In fact, it appears he is out right ducking the fight. With Good reason. Kirkland would eat this version of Sergio Martinez for lunch and Dibella is not going to risk his number one cash cow. Martinez, like Manny, is on the downside. But, to justify his high position in the P4p discussion, he needs to fight someone who is actually a threat. Not to outbox him, but to beat him. And kirkland is a threat. Believe you me

Anne Wolfe won't entertain the notion of a Martinez-Kirkland fight. She feels they need at least 2-3 more fights before being ready for Sergio.

**johnm is...** · 11-16-2011, 12:45 PM

Sergio would ice him. It would never be close.

**ИATAS** · 11-16-2011, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by BoxingGenius27

Anne Wolfe won't entertain the notion of a Martinez-Kirkland fight. She feels they need at least 2-3 more fights before being ready for Sergio.

Also they are comfortable fighting at 154 pounds. They feel this is his best weight, and rightfully so.

**Boxingtech718v2** · 11-16-2011, 12:45 PM

Kirland has the Physical tools but his style is all wrong for Martinez right now. He has zero defense and would end up catching a PW.

**SNAKE GRIFFIN** · 11-16-2011, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by fistandfury

I have a question for my fellow fans. Why won't Martinez entertain the notion of a title defense against James Kirkland? I know, he is in line to face Julio Jr but who the heck is that guy. Is Mexican TV money really worth your reputation as a top pound for pounder? Julio is a club fighter that Martinez is dying to feast on. The word is however, that Dibella does not want the Kirkland fight right now. In fact, it appears he is out right ducking the fight. With Good reason. Kirkland would eat this version of Sergio Martinez for lunch and Dibella is not going to risk his number one cash cow. Martinez, like Manny, is on the downside. But, to justify his high position in the P4p discussion, he needs to fight someone who is actually a threat. Not to outbox him, but to beat him. And kirkland is a threat. Believe you me

With all due respect i think your judging Kirkland thinking Angulo was something special, He's not, you think Martinez won't find an opening early like the limited Angulo did, ofcourse he will and Kirkland will be alot more hurt by a puncher like Martinez, And its almost a certanity that Martinez will outbox Kirkland and not punch himself out.

Martinez knocks him out early, he eats chinny wreckless fighters for breakfast.

**fistandfury** · 11-16-2011, 12:50 PM

i disagree

I think two years ago stylistically Martinez would be all wrong for Kirkland, but not right now. Martinez could not stand up to the brutality that Kirkland can create. He would wear him down, he one saving grace would be the fact that he does have the pop to stop James Kirkland. He does have that, but ducking the fight, not even discussing it, makes no sense. HBO should be putting more pressure on Martinez to make this fight, they are most likely waiting to see if Martinez lands mayweather, if he does, then this fight dies. If he doesn't, Kirkland is a great option to perhaps pass manny and take over the the number two spot on the pound for pound list, IMO of course

**DoktorSleepless** · 11-16-2011, 12:58 PM

Ann Wolf said Kirland isn't ready.

Originally posted by fistandfury

Why won't Martinez entertain the notion of a title defense against James Kirkland?

He has. Translation: "Whenever he wants. It's an easy fight to make with HBO's approval. No problem!"

I asked Dibella though, and he simply told me "not yet."

**fistandfury** · 11-16-2011, 12:58 PM

Now I am just going off the physical nature of Kirkland. He could overpower Martinez very easily, with all due respect to the champion and you. Kirkland can and will win this fight when Sergio stops ducking him

**fistandfury** · 11-16-2011, 01:08 PM

when did dibella say that?

Martinez/Kirkland?