Pacquiao remains no. 1 pound for pound ... Barely

[pvenditto88]

The so called p4p king loses to a lightweight and stays on top? What a joke. And Marquez should have been moved up the rankings for sure.

You read my mind.Politics as usual.

[pvenditto88]

Not every fighter is ruined by a loss. Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya were never quite as good again after facing Mayweather.........though in honesty I think losing too much weight was a factor in both guys performances against Pacquiao.

Marquez clearly is better than ever right now.

I would not say marquez is better than ever right now. I would say marquez had tremdous preparation and a tremendous gameplan that he executed just about flawlessly. I would be suprised if he ever performed to that level again. Arum knows the likelihood of marquez dominating pacquiao again is unlikely and thats why he wants the marquez fight immediately so he can justify the robberies once and for all. Even if manny beats marquez easily in their 4th fight if it happens it doesnt make up for the fact that marquez won saturday.

[RichCCFC]

Pac is a lightweight himself

[pvenditto88]

RichCCFC:Pac is a lightweight himself

Pacquiao has been fighting at 147 and fighting guys who are 150 for 2 years now you can not use the excuse that they are the same size. Marquez was not used to fighting at this weight and frankly I'm suprised he looked as good as he did. I did not think marquez would win but he did.

Arum/Roach banked on marquez being over the hill at 38 and banked on having the fighter in there that looked bad vs mayweahter. Mastermind plan gone to ****.

[Tamis!]

Look at all you emotional peeps crying over an opinion/mythical based ranking.

But at least this should put Pac on his toes, last saturday was a wake-up-call.

[esconore]

Marquez should at least be higher than Donaire.

[hugh grant]

http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...-pound--barely

by Michael Rosenthal


Who is No. 1 pound for pound?

That question became particularly difficult to answer after Manny Pacquiao’s controversial majority-decision victory over Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night in Las Vegas.

The knee-jerk reaction was this: Pacquiao, No. 1 pound for pound, gave a sub-par performance (for him, at least) and should have to pay a price.

No. 2 Floyd Mayweather Jr. was on Pacquiao’s heels going into Saturday, just waiting for a slip-up. And that’s what happened on Saturday. One could argue that Mayweather should supplant Pacquiao atop the rankings, particularly because more people than ever believe he’d beat Pacquiao head to head.

Another option we considered was to declare the No. 1 position vacant and demand that the principals fight one another to determine the pound-for-pound king, which would’ve been the easiest way to deal with this dilemma.

In the end, though, we decided to leave the pound-for-pound rankings as is for one simple reason: All but one member of the Ratings Advisory Panel who provided input and the entire RING Editorial Board believed it was the right thing to do.

Consider:

Pacquiao wasn’t fighting a chump. Marquez is the No. 5 fighter in the world pound for pound. And Pacquiao beat him, at least officially.
A great fighter shouldn’t necessarily be demoted because another great fighter has his number. We didn’t think less of Muhammad Ali because he had trouble with Ken Norton three times. The same with Willie Pep and Sandy Saddler in their series.
A fighter shouldn’t necessarily be demoted because he has an off night, if that’s what it was on Saturday. Sergio Martinez didn’t look great against Darren Barker but no one clamored for him to be demoted.
Pacquiao has accomplished more than Mayweather in recent years. The Filipino is 9-0 against big-name opponents since the beginning of 2008; Mayweather is 3-0 in that time.
Mayweather isn’t exactly coming off a sterling performance. He looked good against Victor Ortiz for three-plus rounds but scored a knockout when Ortiz wasn’t looking.
And you can’t say that Mayweather should supplant Pacquiao because he defeated Marquez more easily. That doesn’t take into account styles and strengths. Plus, Pacquiao beat Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya more easily than Mayweather did.
All that said, we also feel we should add something here: Pacquiao survives as THE RING’s No. 1 fighter by a hair. Should he stumble again or Mayweather turn in an outstanding performance, a new king probably would be crowned.

And we still hold out hope that they’ll decide this once and for all by facing one another in the ring.

One more note: Marquez moved up in weight yet still fought on at least even terms with the No. 1 fighter in the world, which might merit a bump up in the pound-for-pound ratings under certain circumstances. However, we couldn't justify placing him above Pacquiao, Mayweather, Sergio Martinez and Nonito Donaire, who don't deserve to be demoted.

Pacs no1 of course. He didnt become no1 on the basis of one fight, so why should he lose no1 p4p ranking on the basis of one fight, a win at that also?

[RichCCFC]

RichCCFC:Pac is a lightweight himself

Pacquiao has been fighting at 147 and fighting guys who are 150 for 2 years now you can not use the excuse that they are the same size. Marquez was not used to fighting at this weight and frankly I'm suprised he looked as good as he did. I did not think marquez would win but he did.

Arum/Roach banked on marquez being over the hill at 38 and banked on having the fighter in there that looked bad vs mayweahter. Mastermind plan gone to ****.

When has Pac ever came close to making 147? Marquez weighed more than Pac for this fight even

[KillerB]

When has Pac ever came close to making 147? Marquez weighed more than Pac for this fight even

I think they are about the same size. I was surprised when the showed the fight night weights. I think it's funny how people use this to try and discredit Manny.

[Elotero]

Look at all you emotional peeps crying over an opinion/mythical based ranking.

But at least this should put Pac on his toes, last saturday was a wake-up-call.

No.

Pac shoudn't just be on his toes, dude shouldn't even be in the P4P. After Mosley and now the Marquez fight you still think he's the best? HA.

Keep watching that one Ceferino Garcia fight from 1909, that's all you got boy.