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  • Tamis!
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    #251
    Originally posted by uglypug
    you make a good point. marquez and mayweather are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT fighters. . . Marquez does things differently than floyd. . . He had 24 rounds with Manny. . . Floyd has never faced a fighter like Manny. . . Manny, however, does have experience with a countering orthodox fighter. .. But still, it applies to Manny too - he has never faced a fighter like Floyd. . . This is a COMPLETELY NEW MATCHUP that CANNOT be gauged on their performance against a common opponent (marquez). . .

    It's just funny now that people say Pac don't have any chance against Floyd just coz Pac had a hard day with JMM.

    I've always maintained that JMM was the most difficult fighter Pac had to face, no matter what the odds are.

    But that doesn't mean Floyd cruises past Pac. Fantasy fights, of course, but we'll see in a real fight.

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      #252
      Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
      So now Marquez is the blueprint to beat Floyd?

      Coz if that's your logic, the Pac should talk to Katsidis for tips on how to KO JMM.

      Correct me if I'm wrong...
      No.. Mayweather is the blueprint for beating Pac. Like I said Marquez never fought Pacman like that before. He switched his style somewhat to a style more similar to how Mayweather fights.

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      • rocktx
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        #253
        Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
        So now Marquez is the blueprint to beat Floyd?

        Coz if that's your logic, the Pac should talk to Katsidis for tips on how to KO JMM.

        Correct me if I'm wrong...
        But yes ... You are right. Pacman should look at how katsidis fights the next time he fights Marquez. He can't be afraid of getting hit, he has to count on the fact that he hits harder than Marquez, chase him down and trade.

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          #254
          Duck duck duck duck duck duck duck

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          • Tamis!
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            #255
            Originally posted by rocktx
            No.. Mayweather is the blueprint for beating Pac. Like I said Marquez never fought Pacman like that before. He switched his style somewhat to a style more similar to how Mayweather fights.
            Really?

            Can you show me videos on what exactly Marquez did last saturday for you to conclude he fought a style like Floyd please...

            Coz all I saw was a good 'ol JMM being himself, except the last few rounds where he suddenly became cautious for some reason, coz if he pressed like what he did the first 7 rounds, then he may have won that fight.

            Was that how Floyd fought?

            Floyd throughout 12rds was that calm collective cat that would never get dominated, maybe rattled at some point, but recovers and finishes the fight in his favor.

            What I can only agree with you is that Floyd never faced a fighter like Pac, and that will remain to be answered.

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              #256
              Originally posted by rocktx
              But yes ... You are right. Pacman should look at how katsidis fights the next time he fights Marquez. He can't be afraid of getting hit, he has to count on the fact that he hits harder than Marquez, chase him down and trade.


              So Katsidis > Pacquiao.

              Ok....

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                #257
                Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
                Really?

                Can you show me videos on what exactly Marquez did last saturday for you to conclude he fought a style like Floyd please...

                Coz all I saw was a good 'ol JMM being himself, except the last few rounds where he suddenly became cautious for some reason, coz if he pressed like what he did the first 7 rounds, then he may have won that fight.

                Was that how Floyd fought?

                Floyd throughout 12rds was that calm collective cat that would never get dominated, maybe rattled at some point, but recovers and finishes the fight in his favor.

                What I can only agree with you is that Floyd never faced a fighter like Pac, and that will remain to be answered.
                Thats wasn't the same ol Marquez. He fought a very more careful fight. And rightfully so. I didnt say he fought exactly like Mayweather would the whole fight. i was simply pointing out the specific backward movement after the intial attack . And again (for the 3rd time) Marquez did not do that against pac in the first 2 fights which why he got dropped in the first 2 fights.

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                  #258
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  Disgusting if true. I have half foot out the door already from giving up on this sport. Too much BS and politics involved.
                  I actually was thinking the exact same thing yesterday. It's just becoming a parody now.

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                  • rocktx
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                    #259
                    Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya


                    So Katsidis > Pacquiao.

                    Ok....
                    Of course not . You seem to be getting aggravated because Pac wasn't as great as you thought he was and you still hope he can beat Mayweather. If they do ever schedule a fight can I get in touch for a bet? I need to get some points on here

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                      #260
                      Originally posted by rocktx
                      Thats wasn't the same ol Marquez. He fought a very more careful fight. And rightfully so. I didnt say he fought exactly like Mayweather would the whole fight. i was simply pointing out the specific backward movement after the intial attack . And again (for the 3rd time) Marquez did not do that against pac in the first 2 fights which why he got dropped in the first 2 fights.

                      Backward movement is not ring generalship which Floyd had.

                      Whatever JMM did last saturday paid off anyway, but for me it was on Pac why he can't KO JMM, he was too cautious himself when he first felt JMM still has it, so was everyone watching, hence all this surprise.

                      Marquez's in and out backward movement was there since the 1st fight, IMO Pac was way too careful this time, if he wasn't, then a KO was there, but JMM made him miss it by bringing it, and Pac realized it but was too late, somewhat in the 9th rd onwards.

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