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  • SyrianUser
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    #11
    Pacquiao IS NOT READY FOR A 4TH FIGHT AGAINST MARQUEZ , HE NEEDS A TUNE-UP FIGHT

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    • I-M-E
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      #12
      yes its still floyd, he still is the one fighting twice every 2-3 years, so he stays fresh and the age doesnt catch him as fast (my opinion) and while pac man fights everyone he can and trys to clear his name ( with marquez, which i feel a 4th fight is needed after that what i htought was another DRAW), i BET mayweather though is now thinking "ok i will try to fight him now since he showed maybe some weakness and so on"....because he waits til he knows he can win the fight to fight people, not when the fight should be....look at pacman, there was lots of people wondering if he would win or not and he took the fight because he wanted to try to prove that he could do it again, unlike mayweather, none his fights anyone feels will be close because the odds are so stacjed whether that be weight advantage, lack of experience, people past their prime, or people with a style that suits him perfectly...ya never have much talk like: "this is a hard fight to call because they are evenly matched" with mayweather fights.....i think when him and pacman ever do fight itll be when mayweather knows for sure pacmans on the decline, and no sooner...he may rant and **** about wanting him to try and make himself not look like hes waiting, but he will make it so that the fight cant happen whether that be; demanding morem oney even though hes not the top man anymore due to his lack of quality opponenets and lack of fights lately, or find something else that he knows will cause delay...or hell just get in trouble with the law like a ****ing idiot would do and he has done recently (as if he wasnt a pro boxer with lots of money so he needs to be a low down loser thug and act ignoant and immature and liek a high school G playing mr. gangsta money rapper).

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      • BuckToothed
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        #13
        STFU Arum, Floyd should be next in May and Marquez can get his turn next September/November.

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        • Phantomas
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          #14
          I´d say in México, but what for?, if they can buy yanqui judges they can buy mexican judges for less money. If this is truly pac´s wish, he better desists... he would need to legitimally win Marquez four fights just to redeem his soul.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #15
            Unless he does it for the pay cheque there is absolutely no reason for Marqeuz to take this fight.

            He knows he can't win on the cards no matter what.

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            • Pacquiao'd
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              #16
              Originally posted by Don Mac
              as I've always said, Pac is being milked dry, Mayweather is being very smart, waiting for Pac to grow old. IMO Roach has put him through too many hard fights. 3 yrs ago Pac wd have knocked out Mayweather, now Floyd will destroy him.
              That makes sense whenfloyd is older tha. Pac...ypu idiot

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              • 4Corners
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                #17
                Originally posted by Don Mac
                as I've always said, Pac is being milked dry, Mayweather is being very smart, waiting for Pac to grow old. IMO Roach has put him through too many hard fights. 3 yrs ago Pac wd have knocked out Mayweather, now Floyd will destroy him.
                So wait...Floyd is 34 and has slow a bit since his prime (01-07) and you're saying Floyd is waiting for Manny to get old??? Riiiight.

                No way no how would Manny have beaten Floyd in his prime, where he was even faster and more effective than now.

                Like I have said for a year or so now, Floyd and Manny are both past their prime, but still really good.

                I think Floyd is where Ali was in 71'-73' and where Leonard was in 87'-88'. He still has a couple years of good fighting left. I think Manny is where Hagler was in 86'-87'. They are both not quite prime, but still really good.

                Mayweather was light years ahead of Manny in their primes, I am sorry. The only reason I think the fight is going to be 50/50 is because Mayweather is not quite as good as he was in his prime, but still great. Either one gets HUGE credit for the win though, but clearly Arum and Pac don't want it. This should leave NO DOUBT OF THAT.

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                • V.WEBB
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                  #18
                  Gee whiz....I didn't see this coming.

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by I-M-E
                    yes its still floyd, he still is the one fighting twice every 2-3 years, so he stays fresh and the age doesnt catch him as fast (my opinion) and while pac man fights everyone he can and trys to clear his name ( with marquez, which i feel a 4th fight is needed after that what i htought was another DRAW), i BET mayweather though is now thinking "ok i will try to fight him now since he showed maybe some weakness and so on"....because he waits til he knows he can win the fight to fight people, not when the fight should be....look at pacman, there was lots of people wondering if he would win or not and he took the fight because he wanted to try to prove that he could do it again, unlike mayweather, none his fights anyone feels will be close because the odds are so stacjed whether that be weight advantage, lack of experience, people past their prime, or people with a style that suits him perfectly...ya never have much talk like: "this is a hard fight to call because they are evenly matched" with mayweather fights.....i think when him and pacman ever do fight itll be when mayweather knows for sure pacmans on the decline, and no sooner...he may rant and **** about wanting him to try and make himself not look like hes waiting, but he will make it so that the fight cant happen whether that be; demanding morem oney even though hes not the top man anymore due to his lack of quality opponenets and lack of fights lately, or find something else that he knows will cause delay...or hell just get in trouble with the law like a ****ing idiot would do and he has done recently (as if he wasnt a pro boxer with lots of money so he needs to be a low down loser thug and act ignoant and immature and liek a high school G playing mr. gangsta money rapper).
                    So wait.... Floyd who is 2 years older is waiting Manny to slow down??? Neither guy is in their prime anymore, Floyd (2001-2007) or Manny (2002-2009). Both are still really good though. And if I remember right, wasn't Pac the ONLY reason the fight didn't happen back in early 2010??? Mayweather and Pac had both agreed to EVERYTHING and Pac refused the drug testing and fought Clottey.

                    Don't even talk about Floyd's opponents in comparison to Pacquiao man. Floyd has fought more big fights with guys in their prime, you can't deny that. Look at their entire careers.

                    Manfredy, Corrales, Chavez, C. Hernandez, Castillo, N'dou, Judah, Hatton, Ortiz, ALL in their primes when Floyd fought them.

                    G. Hernandez, Gatti, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Marquez, and Mosley were past their primes, but ALL were coming off big wins when they fought Floyd.

                    The only big fight Floyd has done where a guy was coming off a loss was Zab Judah, and he was in his prime in 06'.

                    The only big fights Manny has had with guys definitely considered in their primes were Barrera I, Marquez I, and Solis.

                    Morales I was borderline, and Erik was coming off a loss to Barrera before that fight, and STILL beat Pacquiao.

                    Morales II, Morales III, Barrera II, Marquez II, Diaz, De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, and Marquez III, ALL past their primes. Also, ALL those fights Pac's opponent was coming off losses and horrid outings, except Marquez II, Marquez III, and Diaz.

                    Also, get the f**k outta here with Floyd is picking young inexperienced fighters. Are you talking about Ortiz???

                    Let me remind you that after Ortiz beat previously unbeaten Berto, he said he wanted to fight Pacquiao next. Why didn't Pacquiao choose to fight Ortiz, in his prime, coming off big wins, instead of a past prime JMM at 144, where he had already been dominated by Floyd over 2 years ago???? And Marquez STILL arguably beat Pac again.

                    Ortiz was coming off 5 straight wins (including a win over previously unbeaten WW Champ Andre Berto) and a draw he should have won over highly rated Lamont Peterson. Ortiz was a legit opponent, get outta here if you don't think that.

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                    • Kagami Taiga
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                      #20
                      lol...where are all the pac fans now? lol.

                      i really dont see the point in another fight. that was jmms best showing against pac. he lost. whats gonna change?

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