Just finished watching it for the fourth time. My opinion...if its not a championship fight..marquez is the clear winner. It makes no difference watching it from the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th...marquez is the more technical boxer in that fight...but what I realized after watching it several times is: for a championship fight and fighting against a multiple division champion,,, pound 4 pound king for years,, convincingly beating tough champions and bigger opponents..being a challenger against a man with great contribution to boxing..i think you can't take away that belt just like that...if judges decision were based from that and if its legal to consider those in scoring a championship fight..I cannot say that the judges decisions are wrong. I agree that a knockdown or a more aggression/hunger to take a champ's belt up to the last round could be a more conclusive win against a Champ. Judging it as an ordinary fight..Marquez wins. Props to Marquez..what a way to challenge a champ..i saw the frustrations from Pac in that fight. Pac knew he lost that fight in the eyes of many but its just fair to let him keep his belt and the status of being the defending champ. Props to Pac for trying his best to put up a fight..a champ taking the risk for trying to run a good show to entertain the boxing fans...though not successful..nice try. Cong**** to both of you..
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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostWhat a fkn moron
Manny refusing random blood tests, means that Mayweather is "scared" like some schoolkid, like you would be
Fkn idiot.
BTW, your god just got schooled in the finer arts..... AGAIN !!
I am no longer even interested in a Mayweather fight, *** paying to watch a mismatch. Pac should fight Ortiz, see if he can actually beat a young prime stud.
Your to in love with your boy that you think people say things. I repeat what you *****s should get is pac loooks vulnerable, lost a step, had a hard time with jmm. Isn't it the right time for Floyd to come out to get his easy pay check fighting pac? If you *****s think not. Then your a kissass dumb schmuck who is scared of facing pac lol..
No excuses if floyd doesn't come out now he is really is a sissy boy.. No reason for Your boy not to fight pac.. It's time Floyd your minions don't get it.. But I think you are intelligent enough to see that it's time. Your followers don't get it though. Like this ****** of a fanboy here hehe!Last edited by Spoon23; 11-14-2011, 12:20 AM.
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Originally posted by denix View PostPacman outlanded Dinamita so what is the deal? Clean and crisp combinations by Dinamita were good for cameras and public to see, however, the number of punches landed is better for Pacman. It is a fair decision and salute to the judges. HBO confirmed 116-112 for Pacman.
A fourth fight is a must, though, and it would promise these two excellent fighters (FIGHTERS) more millions.
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Originally posted by Vino Rotcha View PostIs it really hard for *****S to understand? What I've mentioned earlier are FACTORS of being a winner. Pacquiao is the aggressor that night, he is dictating the pace. Imagine what will happen if Pac will just wait for Marquez? If you really think Marquez won, why not help him make a protest?
simple as that...
you always think that you are the better man here. you are nothing but a hatter.
I just stated my opinion, and if you dont like, there is nothing you can do to change my mind. you can cry me river.
But the fact is, Marquez won that fight.
He knows it, Pac knows it, pretty much everyone else who saw that fight knows it, including the 30+ professional fighters/analysts that I quoted above.
3-0 Marquez.
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I respect Freddie for admitting his guy got lucky, but looking at the cards this statement is wrong. The judges made it impossible for Juan to win. Pac didnt pull this out, nacho didnt fail Juan, he was clearly winning the fight. I love Pacman but that was his worst performance since Solis. I dont get how people are so in love with Manny they refuse to see what went on last night. It almost seemed like HBO had an agenda, the judges had an agenda and it didnt matter what happened in the ring. Lampleys cheerleading was deplorable and Steward putting it on nacho shows what a hack he is.(especially after telling Andy Lee(against vera) between rounds he was ahead and to keep doing what hes doing). Marquez won this fight,easy. To say the judges were paid off isnt accurate, they all know you dont cross the Bobfather, and they didnt. Big checks in future, maybe the may/pac fight easy to write a 10 on mannys side in every round he isnt totally dominated. I will agree with freddie, all fights should end in a knockout, we could eject the frickin parasites.
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Style makes fight. Against common opponent Mayweather had a split decision with Dela Hoya that I thought Dela Hoya should have been a winner. Pacquaio dominated Dela Hoya not a single round won and TKO at the end. Mayweather may beat Pacquiao but he is not a combination counter puncher like Marquez he is just countering with right hand and that's it. Mayweather is a coward if by this time he is still scared of Pacquiao. Step into the plate Mayweather this is the time you prove yourself to the whole world that you are truly the number 1 pound for pound. Until you beat Pacquiao you prove none!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostOh no, I understand your point, no problem at all......
But the fact is, Marquez won that fight.
He knows it, Pac knows it, pretty much everyone else who saw that fight knows it, including the 30+ professional fighters/analysts that I quoted above.
3-0 Marquez.
But in the record, its 2-0-1 for Manny.
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Simply Marquez fell short again because his effort was short if you want to win you need to take it you need to take a risks as the HBO announcer said you don't play safe. Compubox shows who's the real winner. Try to watch the fight again and see why Marquez lost? Most of the rounds are even so the judges usually goes who is the aggressor that's the proper judgement!!!
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