No, Marquez was not 'robbed' vs. Pacquiao

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  • loui_ludwig
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    No, Marquez was not 'robbed' vs. Pacquiao

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...ainst-pacquiao

    Sometimes in life, certain people just got your number. Juan Manuel Marquez has Manny Pacquiao's number. After three fights, most of them featuring tighterthanthis rounds, we can say this for sure.

    That's no consolation for Marquez, though, who lost a majority decision (scores were 114-114, 115-113, 116-112) to Pacquiao last night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. He scored a draw in their first bout, in 2004, and suffered a controversial loss in their 2008 clash. Following this fight, in which it appeared he landed more obvious, clean, hard shots, he cried robbery.

    This was a Madoff deal, he implied. Once again, I had my pockets picked.

    Was it robbery? No. It wasn't even a slick pickpocket job. A New York detective, viewing this fight, would be of the same mind when investigating a B&E in which the victim left a spare key under the doormat. Sorta serves ya right, would be the implication..

    The rounds were close close close, hard to score, and American judges tend to reward the guy who throws more punches. Manny, according to CompuBox stats, threw 578 to the 38-year-old Mexican's 436. He landed more, 176 to 138, as well.

    So ... robbery? Marquez now suffers from the boy-who-cried-wolf syndrome. He has backers who agree with him, but others have to shake their head, and point the finger at him. He knows, or should know, that judges aren't masters of subtlety. They often discount the mastery of the counter-puncher, and in American fashion, smile upon the purveyor of brute force. If they do it again, Marquez has to get it through his skull that he needs to throw more than the 32-year-old Pacquiao, to show the judges that he's the better man. Bottom line.
  • jri9d0
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    Sorry dude, JMM won this fight despite what freelance journalist may think/write.

    I have to confess and say that I thought Manny would blow JMM out of the water, I’m eating crow pie right now and I’m actually happy for JMM for really making Pac look ordinary.

    BTW, I’m a Pac fan…

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    • flipbjefrox
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      #3
      Originally posted by jri9d0
      Sorry dude, JMM won this fight despite what freelance journalist may think/write.

      I have to confess and say that I thought Manny would blow JMM out of the water, I’m eating crow pie right now and I’m actually happy for JMM for really making Pac look ordinary.

      BTW, I’m a Pac fan…
      pac looked ordinary but doesnt mean jmm won

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      • B.U.R.N.E.R
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        #4
        JMM won atleast 8 rounds.

        He beat Pacquiao. Period.

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        • flipbjefrox
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          #5
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          JMM won atleast 8 rounds.

          He beat Pacquiao. Period.
          sure he did. and jmm won those 8 rounds CLEARLY too

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          • Savino
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            #6
            I just finished watching the fight and I had Marquez winning the fight 7 rounds to 5. it was a close fight but for me JMM nicked it.

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            • puga
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              #7
              good article.....pissdrinker should check out the punch stats for real....even then , he might still say he got robbed.....

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              • thatnickuh
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                #8
                The reason that judging sucks so much in boxing is because the people in boxing always make excuses for judges. Judges should be held accountable for not scoring defense and not knowing the difference between effective aggressiveness and ineffective aggressiveness. Too often judges are given a pass for just not knowing boxing. I even heard Ledderman spoutng nonsense, saying that the guy with the better defense is the guy with the least amount of damage visible on his face. That's just inexcusable. While I don't feel as though Marquez was "robbed", it's obvious that the benefit of the doubt always goes go Pacquiao in their trilogy.

                I had Marquez winning the fight 7-5 or 8-4.

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                  #9
                  marquez won 8 rounds on my card. hes just the better fighter.

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                  • AlacranMX
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                    #10
                    Pacquiao should focus more on congress than in boxing.. getting beat up by a 38 year old its just sad

                    marquez won by 8

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