Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao vs Juan M. Marquez III: Trainers' Takes

[MrClutch85]

I gotta lot of love for JMM he is one my favorite fighters but sometimes you gotta take your fanboy cap off and tell the real the facts are Juan Diaz gave him trouble Katsidis gave him trouble and Mayweather completely embarrassed him now he's 38 older and slower jumping up 2 weight division fighting a stronger more powerful better chin/stamina version of Pac

[WESS]

How am I a fan boy? cus I dont suck Floyds balls and beg for him to goo on my face? I am picking Marquez to win, does that make me a Pac fan boy?

Sometimes like it or not the fighter and the trainer know what they are talking about, both agreed that Marquez used different methods for the Mayweather fight that hurt them going in, then you had Mayweather fail to honor the contract that also plays a factor
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What other fight has JMM fought at 140? I mean you really cant say that to be honest he has only had two fights at 140 or better, one against Floyd who failed to make the weight (Which honestly is ****ing classless) you going to call for a catch weight match then fail to make the weight, I mean lets be real you talk **** about Catch weight fights to start out with but whats worse a catch weight bout?

Or a catch weight fight in which the bigger guy out right fails to make the weight?

Style wise this is always going to be a good match IMO, However what has always given Marquez trouble with Manny is them left hands, dropped him 4 times, the left hook of Mayweather dropped him and the left hook of Katsidias dropped him meaning he needs to get that right hand up a bit higher, but note each time he was dropped he got right back up they were mostly flash knock downs

First off, what's with you and "goo"?

Secondly, glad you mentioned that you are picking JMM to win as you are the first poster I have encountered. I didn't think anyone was picking him to win. I like JMM but im picking with my head not my heart, Pac has this.

Also I have stated many times that the Mayweather fight vs JMM is just as a b*tch move as this fight is.

They are the same size, however Pac has been fighting at WW, granted he's only fought one Champion and ironically it was at a CW, like his JMW fight. The fact is, JMM put on weight and hasn't proven himself above 140. Pac has and demanded this fight because of thsoe facts. As did Mayweather.

This fight COULD have been between LW and JWW.

[Hindsight 20/10]

why is this fight happening S.M.H

B/c PAC & Marquez have a legacy together. B/c both PAC and Marquez are true fighters that have proved themselves to the boxing community that their legacies will be forever entwined in all of boxing history.

[boxer08]

Really ????

Amateur



These two fighters still have to step in the ring and i'm surprised by the lopsided predictions......check out these boxingscene predictions for another supposed mismatch......put a www in front of boxingscene.com/boxingscene-staff-predictions-de-la-hoya-vs-pacquiao--17315[/url]

This is boxing people......my take.......MARQUEZ by late tko or unanimous decision........going to the cards worried me cause everybody stands to lose tons of money on the Mayweather fight should Marquez get the nod......but i feel it will be that one sided.....this man is a master at making adjustments and adjusting to the new two handed Manny shouldn't be the mountain you all think it is....and just to put it out there....all this talk of Mayweather scared is just people hating Floyd or just loving Pac too much....that in my opinion is a true mismatch....Floyd know this...he's gonna build the anticipation for the fight with his mind games and embarrass Pacqauio on the biggest stage possible.......assuming he gets by Marquez and i don't think he will....Roach and handlers hope Juan is old and slow tonight and he won't be.....

[Allucard]

Only Bob Arum and the pac fanboys think JMM has a chance and they're only saying this because they want to give the perception that Pac is fighting a better JMM than what Mayweather did 2 years ago..

This fight could have been great if it was between LW and JWW because Pac and JMM are the same size.

Exactly. They think they're smart and sneaky but they're just too obvious. Marquez doesn't stand a chance and this should in no way shape or form even be a ppv.

[dblaze9]

The fight night excitement bug just hit me with this article. Can't believe it's already here. Even though I hope JMM can put up a good fight, my gut tells me Manny by KO in 4...at least that's what I told freddy the other day at the wildcard.



Floyd is still the best tho...

[amayseng]

why do so many so called fans ***** about this matchup?

the guys had two closely yet hard fought encounters before, action packed

and adrenaline rushed, how is that a bad thing?

i disagree with the ppv, mainly because of the last few ppv's that stole

fans money...

however,

did fans protest and ***** about gatti and ward 3?

ward was past prime, so was arturro, but we know styles make fights...

and damn, jmm got jacked up, not bloated like when he fought an over the weight limit fmw jr..

it will be a good scrap once again...

pac may get him out of there catching him with something devastating midway though



respect the game, respect the fighters, be happy a good fight is to be had

[x3_bazooka_x3]

First off, what's with you and "goo"?

Secondly, glad you mentioned that you are picking JMM to win as you are the first poster I have encountered. I didn't think anyone was picking him to win. I like JMM but im picking with my head not my heart, Pac has this.

Also I have stated many times that the Mayweather fight vs JMM is just as a b*tch move as this fight is.

They are the same size, however Pac has been fighting at WW, granted he's only fought one Champion and ironically it was at a CW, like his JMW fight. The fact is, JMM put on weight and hasn't proven himself above 140. Pac has and demanded this fight because of thsoe facts. As did Mayweather.

This fight COULD have been between LW and JWW.

I dont think this fight is a ***** move, Manny made the weight if Floyd made the weight I dont think we could look at it the same way neither as that is the fight that both fighters signed and agreed to.

I think at this stage Marquez weighed in at 142 here, as opposed to the full 145 for the Floyd fight, 2 years later and three pounds lighter I think its going to serve him better than most think.

Okay so assume that you all are suggesting he is just too small I dont see it if he adds the weight the right way, which that does appear to be the case now its a matter of what kind of fighting shape he is in, which to me we will know tonight but we can tell from the weigh in that he is clearly in better shape here than for the Mayweather fight and why wouldnt he be? he is a couple pounds lighter and looks shredded.

Just think of it this way, Pac may be rusty~~~ what I mean by that is that in his last three fights, he was in front of guys who were not really fighting back, Okay Margarito was for the first four rounds or so, until that eye socket broke but even then.... Manny was able to deal with the slower wider Margarito who had no footwork or defense.

How does Manny react when suddenly he finds himself back in a fight?

[x3_bazooka_x3]

why do so many so called fans ***** about this matchup?

the guys had two closely yet hard fought encounters before, action packed

and adrenaline rushed, how is that a bad thing?

i disagree with the ppv, mainly because of the last few ppv's that stole

fans money...

however,

did fans protest and ***** about gatti and ward 3?

ward was past prime, so was arturro, but we know styles make fights...

and damn, jmm got jacked up, not bloated like when he fought an over the weight limit fmw jr..

it will be a good scrap once again...

pac may get him out of there catching him with something devastating midway though



respect the game, respect the fighters, be happy a good fight is to be had

Green K for keeping it real

[WESS]

why do so many so called fans ***** about this matchup?

the guys had two closely yet hard fought encounters before, action packed

and adrenaline rushed, how is that a bad thing?

i disagree with the ppv, mainly because of the last few ppv's that stole

fans money...

however,

did fans protest and ***** about gatti and ward 3?

ward was past prime, so was arturro, but we know styles make fights...

and damn, jmm got jacked up, not bloated like when he fought an over the weight limit fmw jr..

it will be a good scrap once again...

pac may get him out of there catching him with something devastating midway though



respect the game, respect the fighters, be happy a good fight is to be had

Gatti vs Ward I, II, and III took place in less than 2 years. The key point to remember is they fought at the same weight. Not moving up to benefit one or the other in any way.

The problem here is JMM is known to not be effective past 140, which is WHY this fight is at 144 and why so many people have problems with it, especially listening to people for the past few years talk about how small Pac is at WW.

Ironic Pac demands a LW to fight him at WW... when both are the same size and couldn't even make the 144lbs.

Gatti Ward where warriors fighting each other on even terms.... not so much for this fight tonight and we all know why.