Pacquiao/Marquez Post Fight Discussion- Please re-vote in the poll. .

[Larry the boss]

1. Pacquiao is a clean fighter; Marquez finally proved that Pacquiao is human. The reason why Pac beat everyone at the higher weights was because he was just the better fighter.

2. Mayweather's accusations have been revealed as bullsht now, and have only showed that he is a coward/ducker. What balls this guy Marquez has to move up in weight and fight Pac , and then to pull off another close fight (he never asked for extra tests or accused pac, what a legend)

3. Pacquiao should either step his game up or retire. Remember the old pac, we saw none of him in the 3rd marquez fight. For some reason, pac has given up his animalistic instinct, the thing which made him great fighter he was. If pac doesnt go back to taking the risks, constant pressure, all out war, then he should avoid a next marquez or floyd fight and retire.

The thing is, I think pac could have easily beat marquez. There were only a couple of instances where pacquiao showed a glimmer of his old self, where he just let his hands go in all out war - and EVERY TIME he did that- he got the better of marquez. If pac wouldve been more aggressive - he wouldve got the knockout.

But instead he chose to box with marquez, only throwing a few punches at a time which was his downfall. He fought marquez fight, and marquez took advantage of that. Pac is no tactitian in the ring, he is a brawler and that is wht got him to the top. If pac doesnt revert back to basics, he should stick to being a congressman.

very good post, sir.

[project xxx1]

You forgot to log in as your alt before you gave yourself props.

what a silly ****.............

[Jerub_Baal]

You forgot to log in as your alt before you gave yourself props.

no, i was just bumping the thread. here i am trying to make some decent boxing points to discuss, but whats the fcking point anymore.

[fceeviper]

that's too good!

[WESS]

when all emotions settle down, more and more people will agree that pac won the fight

also, i don't get the notion that because jmm gave pac 36 rounds of hell, and vice versa, people are giving jmm mad props but are too critical of pac. shouldn't both of them be credited instead? if only jmm gets credit that's like saying pac is on a different level and jmm has no right to be competitive against him. jmm is a very skilled fighter and the best counterpuncher in the game right now. what pac has done against a fighter of jmm's caliber is not something any other fighter can do. in fact, pac is the only opponent who gave jmm the advantage of fighting him at his best game (counterpunching) because of pac's aggresive style.

People should understand this as this is exactly how Mayweather is treated compared to Pac. He is looked at with different standards which puts him on another level.

Pac was supposed to KO JMM very easily. Why? Because the media/Bob Arum and the *******s where giving the perception that Pac was a little guy destroying super duper mega extraordinary giant prime fighters from out of this world. They attempted to give the perception that Pac was ripping through all these ATG super Champions. This hyped lie has been exposed. The media hyped creation has been exposed. So much so that people where overly shocked that this little bloated LW that Floyd Mayweather beat 2 years ago, gave Pac hell and many believe the he should have won. Actually not many, but most... most everyone in the entire boxing world...

So of course nobody is going to give Pac credit. Why shoudl they? He was supposed to do everything he did to his pervious opposition but didn't. This told everyone that Pac has been fighting bums, non threat cherry picked in house fighters who where former champions/cheaters/losers.

This past saturday night is what happens when Bob Arum puts Pac in with a REAL Champion even when bloated. This past saturday night is a small taste of what Pac will experience if he ever stepped in the ring with Mayweather and Bob Arum knows that, *******s are just NOW figuring this out. This past saturday night is what happens when a media created hype machine is exposed for what he truley is.

Expect Bob Arum to avoid putting Pac in with Mayweather at ALL costs. This time he won't even be able to hide it. They will just say Pac needs a tune up, as if he hasn't been fighting washed up bum after bum after bum aka former Champions since 2009.

People did not give Pac credit because he cherry picked a great fighter at a lower weight and got his ass kicked but STILL bosts his JMW Champion, 8 titles in 8 different weight class Bull****.... The fraud was exposed for what he is and nobody wants to credit him for his performance that I thought was good and good enough to win, even though I have it 114-114.

Bottom line, Mayweather vs Pac May 5th, no excuses, "no issues", "lets get it on", in Vegas... The entire boxing world will call Pac a coward if he trys to get a tune up because Mayweather won, Pac won. Now its time to see who the best is.

[wazaa.]

Round 1: Pacquiao
Round 2: Marquez
Round 3: Pacquiao
Round 4: Marquez
Round 5: Marquez
Round 6: Marquez
Round 7: Marquez
Round 8: Marquez
Round 9: Marquez
Round 10: Pacquiao
Round 11: Marquez
Round 12: Pacquiao

Final score: Juan Manuel Marquez 116-112

[sugersean15]

If you have ever boxed you will know this happens all the time

[SyrianUser]

no, i was just bumping the thread.

You just got owned get over it , and your thread is all BS

[Reloaded]

what a silly ****.............

Being ****** and blind are well known ******* inflictions , they butt hurt so bad now that their idol is exposed as CW cherry picking WW hype job .

[KFC(Fforfloyd)]

Watched the PPV fight and was confident that Pacquiao would win after 12 rounds of boxing. Indeed I was right, judges favors effective aggressors of course.

I rewatched the fight today, turned the speakers on mute. I was expecting to see a more convincing scorecard for Pacquiao. Well, I was wrong.



Pac-------Marquez

1. 10-9
2. 10-9
3. 10-9
4. 10-9
5. 9-10
6. 10-9
7. 9-10
8. 9-10
9. 9-10
10. 10-9
11. 9-10
12. 9-10


114-114 draw



Notes:
- I know round 12 was given to Pacquiao by almost all the posters/writers here, it was close, but that's not what I saw.
- This is how I saw it...take it or leave it. This is my first time watching the replay. Re-watching it again might result in a different scorecard. That's just how it is.
- What is yours?

thats bs pac won 3 of the first four rounds.. JMM won round 2 gtfouttahere with dat bs