Pacquiao/Marquez Post Fight Discussion- Please re-vote in the poll. .

[sunnydee]

Hey, ****face, he could fire Arum for all I care too. He'd probably be better off without him.

I say fire everyone , Arum, Koncz, and Pacquiao's entourage. There are too many of them. Read somewhere one of the entourage men slammed a car door on Pacquiao's face before weigh-in. Just keep Roach, Buboy, and Ariza . Oh, if it were just that simple.

[arraamis]

How many ****ing excuses is going to come out of this camp? Give Marquez his respect and let it ****ing go.

If would seem that Team Pac is getting little flustered post JMM. Now, he couldn't handle JMM because of his infidelities, his responsibilities, his relationships and all this after having the best training camp ever, and being in absolute top form.

They just need to accept reality ... JMM is no joke, and has Pac's number.

[WESS]

What public? Who's the public?

Pac has fans, die hard fans. Who will buy anything Pac does.

Pac can fight whoever and will do OK profit.

Even someone like Bradley will do solid PPV numbers where everyone would get paid good money. And, that is also a competitive fight.

A rematch with Cotto whether the fight sucks it would still do good numbers. Now that would be an easy Pac win.

Guys as popular as Pac and Floyd. No matter what the public believes have options and still be able to sell.

I don't think so. Too much light has been put on the Mayweather is a coward, is scared, Pac has agreed for ages and ages and ages etc etc etc. Yet at the end of the day Pac gets beat up by a cherry picked LW at WW and then avoids BOTH Mayweather and JMM? The public won't accept this. Yes, some fannyboys will and go on for days to say who ever Pac cherry picks would destroy Mayweather and JMM etc....

Anyone with common sense knows its either JMM or Mayweather. The media will jump ship if Pac fights anyone else. It will be one big huge contradiction if they do. A big fat overly hyped media lie of what Pac became and it would be exposed as crystal clear if they do so. I expected this to happen, but not until after Pac stepped in the ring with Floyd....

[Double]

I think what the T/S is implying and what everyone is missing is that assuming Marquez doesn't care about the money AND is actually willing to retire, he will force Manny to give him what he wants in order for Manny to get the fight. If Marquez is truly considering retirement, then yes he can ask for whatever he wants if Manny and Arum really want that fight. At least Arum does for sure.

[Chups]

And when he doesn't you'll blame Arum.

They wouldn't call me a ******* if I don't.

[tatangb45]

Yeah I know Pac steps on feet all the time and even punches guys while they're down...dirty tactics are employed by smart fighters...what's your point?

It's good that you are now accepting that Marquez could have been using something underhanded to break Pac's rhythm.

[Mr. Invincible]

you can say the same thing about when manny throws punches,the crowd gets hype yet the majority of punches don't seem to land.the reason alot of people thought marquez won the 2nd fight was because manny didn't steamroll marquez as expected too ? if the only reason everyone thinks marquez won is because he did better than expected than why does manny and his team want to fight him again?manny said he clearly won the fight so why fight again?

To appease the fans. He won clearly to me but it definitely was too competitive to believe Pac would beat Mayweather at this point.

[WESS]

i dont know if he lied or not...but floyd should drop his garbage test and show the world he really want this fight....he saw how pac strugged ..

He won't so there is no point in talking about it. Floyd has made it clear that no matter who he fights they will test. Pac has agreed and there are "no issues". Bob said they agreed ages ago. So it should not matter if he does or doesn't, as it's not an issue. The only issue is if Bob and Roach will allow Pac to step in the ring with a fighter like Mayweather. I have said this for years that they are protecting Manny from Mayweather. Finally, people understand why.

[Oxn]

You still consider him prime? Did you not watch this man in his prime? He hardly got tagged in his prime. When he lost his step he start getting tagged more. But, yea man he's past prime...Still elite though but past prime.

Before Saturday night I had Pac at the top of the WW division...But, it's obvious that he's not. That spot easily belongs to Floyd.

Not prime Primed, but still within that area of 10-15%.

Its like saying Floyd is past primed. Its not accurate. I think hes as good as ever, also with 10-15% of his best.

Hell Mannys been past him prime too. Hes been past it after the Margarito fight. He looked like **** against Nosley. But yes he is still elite, and Floyd is better, and i always believed that.

[TintaBoricua]

lets stop with the excuses. I love watching Pacquiao fight but it's always something when he looks bad.. he didn't have his lucky socks, his legs cramp, etc.

and Arum needs to quit being a bitch. if Pac wants Mayweather and Roach does too.. let them have the fight they want. they've already made you tons of money, it'll only make you even more.

Because Floyd bought himself out of the contract and left Arum, so he's bitter...

Right now, the ball's in Manny's court. All he has to do is say "yes" to the May 5th date, and it's done.

But it's not that simple because Arum I'm sure has some influence in the process.

But people are right, though. Pacquiao should fight Mayweather before any little shine it has left dissipates. A fourth match between him and Márquez can always wait (should there be one).