Lucian Bute is the best super middleweight in the world

[paulf]

I want to see Bute-Kessler

[nachorjj]

Ward is easy the best

[Larry the boss]

yep cause bute beat.........................????????

[jazluvr]

Ward is going to win the tourney, then beat Bute.

[aristotlemoses]

Anyone going to Ward vs Froch in AC by the way?

[uoykcuf]

yep cause bute beat.........................????????

Bute beat on Glen Johnson more than any fighter I've seen beat on Johnson. Tho, you can also contribute that to the fact that Bute knew Johnson very well from sparring. And I think that favors the younger/hungrier lion then it does the olding aging fighter.

[dde91]

Bute beat on Glen Johnson more than any fighter I've seen beat on Johnson. Tho, you can also contribute that to the fact that Bute knew Johnson very well from sparring. And I think that favors the younger/hungrier lion then it does the olding aging fighter.

you must of never seen this fight

[Dirk Diggler UK]

yep cause bute beat.........................????????

Bums, bums, fringe contenders, bums, sparring partners and more bums.

[apokalips]

Bute should fight Kessler or Dirrell or both. I want to see Dirrell back in action soon too. I used to want the S6 winner to face Bute, but tbh what has HE done to deserve it? He's been sitting around while the others fight each other then he gets to fight the winner as if he was the king originally?

SMW has some good fights anyway...I wanna see a variety of fights between Bute, Froch, Ward and Dirrell...Never been big on Kessler, but he and Froch definitely need to rematch.

[P4P Opinion]

Bute-Froch Common Opponents (Glen Johnson, Brian Magee)

Bute dominated Johnson, won by shutout: 120-108, 120-108, 109-109
Froch struggled against Johnson, won by MD: 117-111, 116-112, 114-114

Bute TKO 10 Magee: Bute won every round, floored Magee several times.
Froch KO 11 Magee: 97-92, 96-95, 95-94

Bute did much better against Johnson and Magee than Froch did.

Bute-Ward Common Opponents (Sakio Bika, Edison Miranda)

Bute destroyed Miranda in 3
Ward excessively clinched, fouled and cheated his way to a boring awful lackluster decision against Miranda.

Bute dominated Bika in impressive fashion.
Ward struggled against Bika, excessively clinched, fouled and cheated his way to yet another boring awful lackluster decision.

Bute did much better against Miranda and Bika than Ward did.

Oh dear, you are simple. You haven't even begun to consider the other elements that have to be considered when comparing victories over common opponents. First and foremost you have to consider when they fought in relation to both the opponent and the fighter in question (and fighting someone first doesn't necessarily make it better), you have to consider both style and physical clashes, and of course you have to consider the context of each fight (what was on the line, where was the fight held etc).

To make it even simpler for you, what you've essentially been doing is using a disguised triangle theory, which as we know just doesn't work. The only way to rank fighters who haven't fought is based upon their standard of opposition. Bute is below both Froch and Ward in standard of opposition currently.