Comments Thread For: Roach: I Want Manny To Beat Mayweather, Then Retire

[fishman]

Guys please stop with the random testing ****. All these guys are on, and they all know it (refer to the interview with Angel Hernandez (Marquez's conditioning coach) if your still not sure, theres no testing that is good enough to make a difference anyways,they can get around it all). It was an excuse. Just like Pac makes excuses. All these guys duck and dodge for money, fear of losing, politics or whatever reason. They are like politicians, they all play the game. These guys just need to fight already, random testing, no testing whatever. If Mayweather fought his whole career against opponents who took regular testing then that should be enough for Pac as well. Or if they can get random testing, fine, but it shouldnt be a deal breaker. The main focus is that these guys fight, and who ever causes it not to happen, if it doesnt, is the problem and should be looked at that way. No excuses, money, testing, whatever. This fight has to happen.

[The Devil]

Manny already has beaten Floyd. Every single common opponent manny has beaten 10 times worse, including Marquez after this weekend....plus Floyd is afraid to fight Manny so thats physical and mental victories for Manny. There's really nothing else he can do other than hunt Floyd down like a dog and beat him down in the streets but Manny has too much compassion for that. Manny will retire as the greatest P4P of his era. Floyd will retire undefeated quietly, alongside Joe Mesi in the "who cares" files.

[Brooklyn Iceman]

Oh another one....must be waiting for your turn...

.....i didn't mention "Gay" you did..!!! it's ok, nothing wrong with being one...you can join the jr coalition... keep on hallucinating....

ok we get it you're gay..take your **** posts elsewhere

[slick23]

Mayweather :

1.I want a full random blood and urine test



Pacquiao :

1.Pacquiao is afraid of needles

2.Blood tests make Pacquiao weak

3.$10 million penalty per pound overweight

4.I want Eight Ounce Gloves

5.I choose the ring size

6.Floyd Mayweather wants too much money

7.Floyd Mayweather is not serious he doesnt want to fight

8.We dont want to fight at the MGM Grand

9. I need a 17 day cutoff.

10. Let the Commission do their job

11. We don't trust USADA

12. 50/50 split won't get it done even though Mayweather consistently beats me in terms of generating revenue. Yes, Pacquiao recently said he wants more than 50/50.

13. Mayweather may not be available due to his cases.

14. Floyd Mayweather SR. said we couldn't train in the PI so that tells us they aren't serious.

15. As long as we have a pending case against Mayweather, we obviously aren't going to fight.

16. We hate Golden Boy so we won't negotiate with them.

17. Mayweather didn't answer my online clock that counted down to zero.

18. We're not going to wait on Mayweather. That's why we sign our next opponent 3 days after our last fight in order to shut out an opportunity or window to start earnest discussions with the Mayweather camp.

19. I dont need Mayweather to enhance my career.

20. The Joshua Clottey fight days after the Mayweather negotiations broke down


21. Starting a false rumor , Mayweather is fighting Erik Morales .


22. Can't give blood cause of religious belief/superstition


23. "Mayweather is naturally bigger than me so if I give blood I will be smaller than him"


24. No testing within 7 days of the fight

As much as i originally thought Mayweather was in the wrong, it seems that Pac's camp has gone the extra mile to come up with reasons to not make the fight. Love the post man! I will always believe it is Arum stopping the fight from happening. Not Floyd, or Manny, or Roach. Like it or not Floyd is his own man, he calls the shots as far as who he fights next. Pac does not. He pays Arum to promote him. Arum is gonna milk him until he can't anymore.

If you have followed Roach's comments over the past two years he has been pretty blunt about what he wants to happen. He seems to have stayed away from what the promoter does and sticks strictly to training his fighter for the next battle. Sure he has made comments about the Floyd camp, but you can read between the lines and conclude he's been tired of all the bull****. That said he has made a killing training Pac, so it makes dealing with all the games that much easier.

Pac keeps his mouth shut, and destroys whoever is put in front of him. That's always going to appeal more to the general public than a guy who is a defensive oriented fighter, who seems to never stop talking about how good he is. I'm not judging either fighter, yet the situation is what it is. That said, Floyd has way more responsibility and control over his career than Pac does. Just two different ways of doing business really. At this point, if Pac doesn't speak up to Arum then the fight isn't happening. Floyd's camp hasn't said anything out of the ordinary in regards to the May 5th announcement. The fight will be at MGM regardless of the bull**** need for negotiation talk.
It's Cinco De Mayo and Kentucky Derby weekend in Vegas, no one is outbidding them to hold the fight, so stop with the nonsense! It all depends on Manny at this point like it or not.

[lopez36]

this is getting old and boring already,all this roach says he wants fight,mayweathers' uncles etc etc,,,it's old already,don't know how many times we read the same thing over and over,we aren't getting a fight unless manny agrees to random testing,random or else no fight,thats how it is,why doesn't roach say that? he should say:..'if manny only agrees to random testing the fight is on"...we wont ever hear that so they need to stop with the same articles over and over

[spoonwars]

Manny already has beaten Floyd. Every single common opponent manny has beaten 10 times worse, including Marquez after this weekend....plus Floyd is afraid to fight Manny so thats physical and mental victories for Manny. There's really nothing else he can do other than hunt Floyd down like a dog and beat him down in the streets but Manny has too much compassion for that. Manny will retire as the greatest P4P of his era. Floyd will retire undefeated quietly, alongside Joe Mesi in the "who cares" files.

*****s won't accept that though. They're happy dining at Kentucky Floyd Chicken with the new line of Duck. Fried or grilled, *****s eat all of Floyd's ****.

[Taaj Manzoor]

Will Manny be forced by Roach to take the test? I hope Arum doesn't try and block this fight happening.

[Pacquiao'd]

Never too late to change tho.

spot on...............

[spoonwars]

this is getting old and boring already,all this roach says he wants fight,mayweathers' uncles etc etc,,,it's old already,don't know how many times we read the same thing over and over,we aren't getting a fight unless manny agrees to random testing,random or else no fight,thats how it is,why doesn't roach say that? he should say:..'if manny only agrees to random testing the fight is on"...we wont ever hear that so they need to stop with the same articles over and over

Bear with it for a few more years. Both fighters' time is coming to a close. But rest assured Floyd Mayweather Jr will be more out in the open once Pacquiao retires by 2013. Floyd takes care of himself outside of the ring and fights only once a year or so, so he knows what he's doing to duck Pacquiao effectively.

[Pacquiao'd]

Manny already has beaten Floyd. Every single common opponent manny has beaten 10 times worse, including Marquez after this weekend....plus Floyd is afraid to fight Manny so thats physical and mental victories for Manny. There's really nothing else he can do other than hunt Floyd down like a dog and beat him down in the streets but Manny has too much compassion for that. Manny will retire as the greatest P4P of his era. Floyd will retire undefeated quietly, alongside Joe Mesi in the "who cares" files.