I feel that it's inevitable, on Marquez getting stopped.

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  • SonnyDempsey
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Ban Stick
    It is not clear that if Pac struggles with Marquez he'd lose to Mayweather, styles make fights. He might have 3 tough ones with Marquez and knock out Mayweather. You never know.
    I agree; of course styles make fights. But if Marquz wins, it'll be because he outboxes Pacquiao. If Marquez can outbox Pacquiao, I don't see Floyd not being able to. The only thing Floyd lacks is aggression and risk-taking, which isn't enough of a difference (to me) to say that Floyd wouldn't outbox him if Marquez can...

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    • brick wall
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      #32
      Originally posted by The Ban Stick
      It is not clear that if Pac struggles with Marquez he'd lose to Mayweather, styles make fights. He might have 3 tough ones with Marquez and knock out Mayweather. You never know.
      i agree...i don't know why people keep on bringing up pac's performance against jmm to assess his chances against floyd. if pac struggled against a skilled fighter like jmm blah blah blah...then he has no chance against a more skillful fighter like floyd. well, floyd and jmm are 2 different fighters with different styles and different skills set so i don't know how you can use that as a gauge.

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        #33
        Marquez is winning this fight by knock out

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        • r ! z
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          #34
          Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3
          Marquez is winning this fight by knock out
          highly doubt it but i would love it........and hate it at the same time because then mayweather will never fight pacquiao.

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            #35
            Originally posted by _Hisoka
            Anyone else feel that way? Can't see any other outcome, never thought I'd see the day...
            Common sense says your feeling is correct.

            The man is 38, He is older and slower than he has ever been. His training is completely new. I have yet to see an elite fighter change his training regimen and actually provide the kind of positive results that truely shock boxing. He is fighting 3 weight classes over his actual size, he himself has claimed he has a problem coming in over 132lbs.

            The monkey wrench here really is that he is a better skilled fighter than Pacquiao and fans are hopeful his superior technique will play into his favor. Though if he is slower and less conditioned his technique might be nullified.

            Some people are beating to death that Pacquiao is a better skilled and trained fighter now, on a different level than when they fought. Marquez fought both 1 handed manny and 2 handed manny. I believe Pacquiao has looked better in recent fights because he hasnt faced elite opposition even though he is an elite fighter himself. He is more experienced and now a much bigger fighter but in skill he is still, powerhouse manny. Not much has changed. One must remember Manny hasn't fought an elite fighter since 2008 when he faced JMM.

            So this fight is kind of a showcase to see if Manny has slowed down any since 2008 more than anything. Considering all the advantages Manny has amassed for himself in this fight he SHOULD look like a monster. Anything less leaves question about him loosing a little bit of an edge. JMM being his measuring stick because the man has skills and comes to fight and won't be gun shy.

            Are people hopeful that JMM defeats all odds and shocks the world? Absolutely.

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              #36
              Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
              Common sense says your feeling is correct.

              The man is 38, He is older and slower than he has ever been. His training is completely new. I have yet to see an elite fighter change his training regimen and actually provide the kind of positive results that truely shock boxing. He is fighting 3 weight classes over his actual size, he himself has claimed he has a problem coming in over 132lbs.

              The monkey wrench here really is that he is a better skilled fighter than Pacquiao and fans are hopeful his superior technique will play into his favor. Though if he is slower and less conditioned his technique might be nullified.

              Some people are beating to death that Pacquiao is a better skilled and trained fighter now, on a different level than when they fought. Marquez fought both 1 handed manny and 2 handed manny. I believe Pacquiao has looked better in recent fights because he hasnt faced elite opposition even though he is an elite fighter himself. He is more experienced and now a much bigger fighter but in skill he is still, powerhouse manny. Not much has changed. One must remember Manny hasn't fought an elite fighter since 2008 when he faced JMM.

              So this fight is kind of a showcase to see if Manny has slowed down any since 2008 more than anything. Considering all the advantages Manny has amassed for himself in this fight he SHOULD look like a monster. Anything less leaves question about him loosing a little bit of an edge. JMM being his measuring stick because the man has skills and comes to fight and won't be gun shy.

              Are people hopeful that JMM defeats all odds and shocks the world? Absolutely.
              great post

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                #37
                Originally posted by Sir Rizzle
                great post

                Thanks man!

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                • rj231986
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                  #38
                  marquez will be competitive but will be overwhelmed later on

                  i actually think pac will start off fast and marquez will look to counter. if that doenst work he will apply pressure and this might be his downfall.i think if marquez just boxes uses the jab and catch pac coming in he has a chance to upset him.brawling with pac will get him ko'd, hes never felt the power of pac at welter and may even be gun shy once he feels it and not throw too many.overall i think it will be competive with pac stopping him by tko round 6 after be knocked down multiple times

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                    #39
                    I'm very sure he gets stopped. I can't see how he survives.

                    And he will certainly get dropped atleast once.

                    I have £500 on that.

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                      #40
                      yeah he can outbox him and fight in spurts and attack when he sees oppening and catch pac jumping in and out

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