Comments Thread For: Roach Rips Ellerbe: All Mayweather Has To Do is Sign!

[x3_bazooka_x3]

for the dela hoya fight, manny just came up to 135 from 130, and dela hoya just fought at a catchweight of 150.

on paper, you could clearly see the weight disparity between the two and in fact, if you look at articles before that fight, many considered the fight a circus.

dela hoya had to go down one weight class to fight manny, and manny had to go up two weight classes.. this just after he went up one weight class in the same year. so technically, manny went up THREE weight classes before fighting dela hoya.

but on fight night, manny obviously came in more prepared for the fight than dela hoya.

Ja ja ja, Anybody with a ****ing brain knows its easier to move up in weight than it is to move down.... Manny moving up was basicly what he needed at that time most the *******s argue he was hurting himself making that weight so why the change up now?

The move down for DLH costed him big time even Roach admitted this, after the fight, Roach stated we got to train for the fight and Oscar had to train to make weight...

He even pointed out the IV markings on Oscars arm now why would he do that? Roach is an honest man, he tells it like it is, an often has put his own foot in his mouth in doing so....

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Gatti was coming off of a win

Miguel was comming off of a win

Margarito was comming off of a win

Mosley wasnt comming off of a loss he had a draw

but that doesnt count because we are talking about Pac here and not Floyd....

[AFighter4U]

Ja ja ja, Anybody with a ****ing brain knows its easier to move up in weight than it is to move down.... Manny moving up was basicly what he needed at that time most the *******s argue he was hurting himself making that weight so why the change up now?

The move down for DLH costed him big time even Roach admitted this, after the fight, Roach stated we got to train for the fight and Oscar had to train to make weight...

He even pointed out the IV markings on Oscars arm now why would he do that? Roach is an honest man, he tells it like it is, an often has put his own foot in his mouth in doing so....

true, it IS easier to go up in weight than down. doesn't make going down in weight impossible though, just more difficult. dela hoya had all the tools to do so. he had a lifetime of experience as a CHAMPION boxer, all the money in the world, the best trainers in the planet at his disposal and ample time to prepare. as i said before, it just happens that manny came in better prepared for the fight than dela hoya.

[dldwizard]

^^ of course.. for *****s that's justification enough for all the sh|t they're pulling against pac here in nsb.. it's all because he is PAC..

[dldwizard]

so, have any ***** shown any 'evidence' of this supposed 'signed contract'? any pic with floyd's john han**** on that piece of paper? any ***** like to step up and back up your words.. i swear i'd applaud and eat crow if you show it.. any taker?

[x3_bazooka_x3]

true, it IS easier to go up in weight than down. doesn't make going down in weight impossible though, just more difficult. dela hoya had all the tools to do so. he had a lifetime of experience as a CHAMPION boxer, all the money in the world, the best trainers in the planet at his disposal and ample time to prepare. as i said before, it just happens that manny came in better prepared for the fight than dela hoya.

It doesnt matter who Oscars team was, what tools he had I wouldnt give a **** if he had Richard Simmons to help him with the weight, His body couldnt take it, he shocked his body coming down that low in weight.

its going to have an effect on your performance like it or not, why do you think there is such a term as weight drained? or even Over trained for that matter your body is like an engine you can not just let it run all the ****ing time you do need to rest and tune up that engine and you must also come to a point and realize that moving down that low in weight is like running that engine with out any oil sooner or later its going to cease

[LeadUppercut]

Manny is not and was not the Jr Middleweight Champ... he won a belt there

Kinda like Oscars belt that he won there, the same belt that Floyd took from Oscar, look at it like this, Mayorga won the vactant title from Picirillo and lost it to DLH it was not the legit title.

However you can disagree with my opinions all you want, doesnt make me a *******.

Let me ask you this, was Gatti shot when Floyd fought him?
What about Judah?
what about Mitchell?
Who was bruselles?
How do you feel about Floyds win over Marquez who was fighting a man two divisions higher than he, and Floyd failed to make weight so how do you rate that win?
What about Hatton? I mean Collazo beat Hatton long before Floyd fought him... even dropped hatton.
you can ask all the same questions about Floyd, and because I dont agree with what your saying, Because I wont get on my knees and suck Floyds **** the way you do, somehow that makes me a ******* or a hater....
right?

1.) Exactly !! Pacquiao is NOT a genuine JMW champ, so you are a fkn moron for insinuating that beating a faded welterweight bum is a significant achievement worthy of greatness.

2.) This is about Pacquiao, not Mayweather, so stop changing the subject

3.) Your silly Pac/May war is absurd, so dont try to drag me into it

4.) I dont give a *** about Mayweather, say what you like about him

5.) Only a fanboy would credit Pac for Hoya/Hatton/Cotto/Margarito, 2 were made to order and highly vulnerable, and the other 2 were cracked eggs and ripe for the picking

It is hilarious how you pac " fans " want to regard Manny as "great", but do not expect him to live up to the traditional standards of greatness.

Somebody who is regarded as "great" in some circles, but does not live up to the standards of his predecessors..... is a hypejob, plain and simple.

That does not mean that Pac aint a good fighter, because he is a terrific fighter..... but he CLEARLY does not measure up to the traditional standards of greatness.

[LeadUppercut]

...lowlife ignorant mothafuqka!!! everytime you drool here, you post the same stuff over and over like a brain dead ******..you hate Pac so much, that's just too bad,,because idiots like you...are like turd about to get **** on...by the *******s..Pac's looking down at you...loser!!!!

Die slowly ***go7

At least I talk boxing, what was that inane dribble about ?

Go kick your cat you idiot.

[LeadUppercut]

so, have any ***** shown any 'evidence' of this supposed 'signed contract'? any pic with floyd's john han**** on that piece of paper? any ***** like to step up and back up your words.. i swear i'd applaud and eat crow if you show it.. any taker?

You are an idiot.....

It is extremely well-documented that Mayweather agreed to EVERYTHING, and that the fight died because Pacquiao "walked away from the table" after refusing to undertake random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-agree-drug-testing-with-24-day-cut--27427

Come on man, even ignorant *******s know that.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

1.) Exactly !! Pacquiao is NOT a genuine JMW champ, so you are a fkn moron for insinuating that beating a faded welterweight bum is a significant achievement worthy of greatness.

2.) This is about Pacquiao, not Mayweather, so stop changing the subject

3.) Your silly Pac/May war is absurd, so dont try to drag me into it

4.) I dont give a *** about Mayweather, say what you like about him

5.) Only a fanboy would credit Pac for Hoya/Hatton/Cotto/Margarito, 2 were made to order and highly vulnerable, and the other 2 were cracked eggs and ripe for the picking

It is hilarious how you pac " fans " want to regard Manny as "great", but do not expect him to live up to the traditional standards of greatness.

Somebody who is regarded as "great" in some circles, but does not live up to the standards of his predecessors..... is a hypejob, plain and simple.

That does not mean that Pac aint a good fighter, because he is a terrific fighter..... but he CLEARLY does not measure up to the traditional standards of greatness.

I didnt credit him for DLH though, regardless Floyd was going to rematch oscar at the same weight, this is the problem I have with you, you clearly ignore that.

Floyd fighting Ortiz, you all talked **** about Ortiz long before you knew they were going to fight calling him a heartless quitter etc.. Why should Floyd get credit for that win? hes a quitter right? who did he beat? Berto? come one who has Berto beat? Nobody in fact he got his ass whipped by featherfisted Louis Collazo.
Floyds win over Marquez, Should Floyd even get credit for fighting Marquez at all? No.... he shouldnt considering the circumstances.
On to DLH vs PBF, you do know Oscar at that point was a part time fighter on drugs and cross dressing Floyd barley won that fight if I were a judge he wouldnt have won on my card waiting for Oscar to get tired, you must take the title not have it given to you.

I dont give a **** if you dont like Pac, but to discredit him and suck floyds **** is quit gay.