Comments Thread For: Roach Rips Ellerbe: All Mayweather Has To Do is Sign!

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When Pacquiao fought Cotto, Miguel had just been destroyed by Margarito and then battered by Clottey.

Wow what a ****in pansy you are, Go back to Holyfield Bowe the trilogy, Evander was considered shot by the time he got to Tyson and changed alot of peoples minds that night.

Since when does getting your ass handed to you mean your shot instantly? I mean seriously?
and Battered by Clottey? I am sorry I didnt see that fight that way it was a good fight no doubt but Cotto wasnt battered by Clottey.

But since you want to play that way, explain this
Judah
Baldimor who had a dozen losses when Floyd fought him
Mitchell who was starched by KT brutally
Gatti who had been beaten to death by just about every fighter he has faced.
Mosley who had two losses back to back to wright, was lossing and getting out boxed by Mayorga til that last round, lost twice back to back against Forrest..
Ortiz who quit against Maidana had a draw with Peterson

wait wait I get it they were comming off of a win when Floyd fought them, well everybody but Judah.
but lets be real if you argue that Cottos shot off of one loss and a rocky performance against Clottey then you can argue the same for anybody Floyd has fought.

in addition catchweights are not only used for the reasons you stated, they are also used to pit together two fighters who the fans want to see fight who are currently in different divisons, keep in mind Manny moved back down to 140 after DLH, destroyed the champ at 140, came back up for better challenges he has never once stepped on the scale at 147 a day in his life.

obviously he is a very small welter should be a Jr welter and going againts guys like Margarito the catchweight IMO is fair both Marg and Cotto were fair DLH well like I said Floyd was in discussions for his rematch with Oscar for his title at 147 and had that fight taken place at 147 none of you would have had a problem with that

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wow bazooka... you've been at this for hours now. your stamina is admirable dude.

Well, you have been attempting to peddle that " second " negotiation bull**** for MONTHS, so your ignorance is..... admirable

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Well, you have been attempting to peddle that " second " negotiation bull**** for MONTHS, so your ignorance is..... admirable

thats Latin King or what ever his name is actually I had just got back from Augora hills about an hour ago....

Latinking is saying this because I exposed his three days straight on the forum with no time away, twice~

he is a meth-head dont mind him this is the internet he has to do something while he is smoking that hillbilly *******

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Wow what a ****in pansy you are, Go back to Holyfield Bowe the trilogy, Evander was considered shot by the time he got to Tyson and changed alot of peoples minds that night.

Since when does getting your ass handed to you mean your shot instantly? I mean seriously?
and Battered by Clottey? I am sorry I didnt see that fight that way it was a good fight no doubt but Cotto wasnt battered by Clottey.

But since you want to play that way, explain this
Judah
Baldimor who had a dozen losses when Floyd fought him
Mitchell who was starched by KT brutally
Gatti who had been beaten to death by just about every fighter he has faced.
Mosley who had two losses back to back to wright, was lossing and getting out boxed by Mayorga til that last round, lost twice back to back against Forrest..
Ortiz who quit against Maidana had a draw with Peterson

wait wait I get it they were comming off of a win when Floyd fought them, well everybody but Judah.
but lets be real if you argue that Cottos shot off of one loss and a rocky performance against Clottey then you can argue the same for anybody Floyd has fought.

in addition catchweights are not only used for the reasons you stated, they are also used to pit together two fighters who the fans want to see fight who are currently in different divisons, keep in mind Manny moved back down to 140 after DLH, destroyed the champ at 140, came back up for better challenges he has never once stepped on the scale at 147 a day in his life.

obviously he is a very small welter should be a Jr welter and going againts guys like Margarito the catchweight IMO is fair both Marg and Cotto were fair DLH well like I said Floyd was in discussions for his rematch with Oscar for his title at 147 and had that fight taken place at 147 none of you would have had a problem with that

It appears that you are nothing but an ignorant fanboy b1tch.

Only a fkn idiot would credit Pacquiao with beating a faded shop-worn Cotto who was disadvantaged on the scales..... but you would have to be a total pig-ignorant fanboy b1tch to give him any credit for beating Margarito.

GTFOH you Check_hooks looking fool

Tell me something, clownboy..... do you regard Pacquiao as a genuine JMW champion..... YES, or NO ?

Lets find out where you're at kid, once-and-for-all.

Is Pacquiao a genuine JMW champion..... YES, or NO ?

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I can only acknowledge one fight that gave Manny an advantage and that was De La Hoya, Cotto going down to 145 was not a big deal, Cotto never said it was the weight, Margarito at 150 that wasnt a big deal neither IMO.

The DLH fight was why? cus Oscar hasnt made that weight in years and years had the agreement been at 150 instead I wouldnt have had a problem with that neither as Oscar looked great at 150 with Forbes.

the catch weights can be and have a dramatic effect on a fighter but the two catch weight bouts outside of DLH to me were not any way a factor in how either cotto or Margarito performed in fact Margarito landed more shots on Manny in that fight than any other fighter who has fought Manny since Morales in fight 1.

And IMO Cotto did more physical damage to Manny than any of Mannys opponents since Marquez

Come on fam. Pac didn't have to fight Cotto at 145 considering he already fought De La Hoya at 147. Roach has went on record and said one time when Pac first entered WW that he would want to fight Floyd at a catchweight to take something away from Floyd because he is a good fighter, so catchweights do hold some kind of advantage for Roach when making Manny's fights.

[x3_bazooka_x3]

It appears that you are nothing but an ignorant fanboy b1tch.

Only a fkn idiot would credit Pacquiao with beating a faded shop-worn Cotto who was disadvantaged on the scales..... but you would have to be a total pig-ignorant fanboy b1tch to give him any credit for beating Margarito.

GTFOH you Check_hooks looking fool

Tell me something, clownboy..... do you regard Pacquiao as a genuine JMW champion..... YES, or NO ?

Lets find out where you're at kid, once-and-for-all.

Is Pacquiao a genuine JMW champion..... YES, or NO ?

Manny is not and was not the Jr Middleweight Champ... he won a belt there

Kinda like Oscars belt that he won there, the same belt that Floyd took from Oscar, look at it like this, Mayorga won the vactant title from Picirillo and lost it to DLH it was not the legit title.

However you can disagree with my opinions all you want, doesnt make me a *******.

Let me ask you this, was Gatti shot when Floyd fought him?
What about Judah?
what about Mitchell?
Who was bruselles?
How do you feel about Floyds win over Marquez who was fighting a man two divisions higher than he, and Floyd failed to make weight so how do you rate that win?
What about Hatton? I mean Collazo beat Hatton long before Floyd fought him... even dropped hatton.
you can ask all the same questions about Floyd, and because I dont agree with what your saying, Because I wont get on my knees and suck Floyds **** the way you do, somehow that makes me a ******* or a hater....
right?

[Brooklyn Iceman]

YOu are the whiney b1tchy coqk sucking fanboy...

...lowlife ignorant mothafuqka!!! everytime you drool here, you post the same stuff over and over like a brain dead ******..you hate Pac so much, that's just too bad,,because idiots like you...are like turd about to get **** on...by the *******s..Pac's looking down at you...loser!!!!

EXACTLY !!

The fact that Manny ducked Mosley TWICE back when Shane was
ranked the #1 welterweight, and only agreed to fight him when it was plainly obvious that Mosley was shot and could no longer pull the trigger..... makes his fanboys whiney b1tches for wanting to give Pacquiao any credit for that win.

Just like with Cotto..... he was well-faded, not on top of his game, highly vulnerable, AND Pacquiao tried to drain him on the scales..... and yet his pig-ignorant fanbase now act like Manny beat prime Cotto and want him to receive full credit for doing so.

They are fkn idiots.

Manny has done nothing but demean his own achievements. He is a joke for regarding himself as an 8 division titlist for beating a faded welterweight bum at 154. Canelo has more credibility than Pacquiao, because Canelo actually fought a JMW.

How could you possibly call a guy great, when his few actual achievements were hollow victories against faded disadvantaged opponents?

[x3_bazooka_x3]

Come on fam. Pac didn't have to fight Cotto at 145 considering he already fought De La Hoya at 147. Roach has went on record and said one time when Pac first entered WW that he would want to fight Floyd at a catchweight to take something away from Floyd because he is a good fighter, so catchweights do hold so kind of advantage for Roach when making Manny's fights.

Cotto didnt have to fight pac at that weight, Cotto himself stated that the weight was not a problem.
I am not saying catch weights do not give an advantage, what I am saying is the catch weight that Cotto and Pac fought at was no advantage for Pacquiao as I thought Cotto did the most damage over all to Manny even though he got whipped.

Margarito come on do you really care what the **** happens to tony most of you consider him a glove loading cheating **** so why are you crying about what happend to him here? or is your hate for Manny that much so that it suddenly erases all the **** you all talk about Margarito? I have a feeling I am on to something here.

The only fight IMO that it had a clear advantage was DLH, but then again like I said Floyd and Oscar in discussions for their rematch was likely going to be for Floyds welter weight title meaning Floyd was going to go there, and had he gone there none of you could say the **** your saying now.

and all this Cotto was shot after Margarito, if thats true whats that Make Gatti and Judah?

[AFighter4U]

Cotto didnt have to fight pac at that weight, Cotto himself stated that the weight was not a problem.
I am not saying catch weights do not give an advantage, what I am saying is the catch weight that Cotto and Pac fought at was no advantage for Pacquiao as I thought Cotto did the most damage over all to Manny even though he got whipped.

Margarito come on do you really care what the **** happens to tony most of you consider him a glove loading cheating **** so why are you crying about what happend to him here? or is your hate for Manny that much so that it suddenly erases all the **** you all talk about Margarito? I have a feeling I am on to something here.

The only fight IMO that it had a clear advantage was DLH, but then again like I said Floyd and Oscar in discussions for their rematch was likely going to be for Floyds welter weight title meaning Floyd was going to go there, and had he gone there none of you could say the **** your saying now.

and all this Cotto was shot after Margarito, if thats true whats that Make Gatti and Judah?

for the dela hoya fight, manny just came up to 135 from 130, and dela hoya just fought at a catchweight of 150.

on paper, you could clearly see the weight disparity between the two and in fact, if you look at articles before that fight, many considered the fight a circus.

dela hoya had to go down one weight class to fight manny, and manny had to go up two weight classes.. this just after he went up one weight class in the same year. so technically, manny went up THREE weight classes before fighting dela hoya.

but on fight night, manny obviously came in more prepared for the fight than dela hoya.

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Cotto didnt have to fight pac at that weight, Cotto himself stated that the weight was not a problem.
I am not saying catch weights do not give an advantage, what I am saying is the catch weight that Cotto and Pac fought at was no advantage for Pacquiao as I thought Cotto did the most damage over all to Manny even though he got whipped.

Margarito come on do you really care what the **** happens to tony most of you consider him a glove loading cheating **** so why are you crying about what happend to him here? or is your hate for Manny that much so that it suddenly erases all the **** you all talk about Margarito? I have a feeling I am on to something here.

The only fight IMO that it had a clear advantage was DLH, but then again like I said Floyd and Oscar in discussions for their rematch was likely going to be for Floyds welter weight title meaning Floyd was going to go there, and had he gone there none of you could say the **** your saying now.

and all this Cotto was shot after Margarito, if thats true whats that Make Gatti and Judah?

Gatti was coming off of a win and on top of that, if Gatti would have beaten Baldomir then Cotto woud have fought Arturo after Floyd. Zab and Floyd was in talks to fight before he lost to Baldomir, when he was the undisputed WW champion. Floyd went for a winner. Guess what. Cotto fought Zab after Floyd. Bruseles was a warm up to Cotto and I truly believe that because Bruseles was trained by Evangelista and was a sparring partner for Cotto and vice versa. Cotto helped Bruseles get ready for Floyd. De La Hoya deserved to get beat down for trying to pick on Pac. Throughout my debate with you I haven't said one thing about Margarito regarding Pac.

The only thing I can say about that fight is that Margarito didn't deserve a title fight in a division he hadn't fought in and won ESPECIALLY coming back from a suspension for cheating and a lackluster win against someone that wasn't even ranked. Pac title at 154 was a set up and I don't think that is hate stating that fact. Cotto was tramatized after Margarito and then on to Clottey with that big cut over his eye and Pac still made Cotto come down to 145. Pac had already proven himself at the full WW limit against De La Hoya. Why would Roach demand a catchweight for Cotto? Cotto agreed, so it is his fault but honestly. That fight should have been at 147. I don't hate Pac because I haven't disrespected or called him any names once. You just think I hate him because I'm not cosigning him.