Why Does Ali Get Credit For Beating a Shot Frazier?

['Sugar' Freddi]

Because Boxingscene doesn't exist back then.

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Ali was an anti-white racist and anti-*** racist, as soon as he became a Black ******. His low IQ made him easy to "convert". Except for boxing, and a quick tongue, he was as ignorant as hell and got away with it because a mafia run thug like Liston had been Champ and Ali had good management and script writers..

Most people think that Ali went to jail for his principles, the guy never spent a day in jail, he was out on bail all the time whilst his lawyers were creating legal stumbling blocks. Cosell, who was ***ish was too full of his own importance and arrogance, in bucking the then public sentiment about Ali so as to publicly support and back him, never realised at the time that Ali hated ***s and whites. He realised it later in life.

yeah... so?

[bojangles1987]

I can't believe I'm going to be the first person in this thread to say that Ali was just as "shot" as Frazier was. So you had two of the greatest heavyweights ever, both in similar physical condition, wage one of the greatest fights of all time, where arguably the only reason Ali won is because Frazier's corner gave in before Ali himself did.

Yeah, both Ali and Frazier deserve every word of praise and credit they've ever gotten for that fight.

[chito]

thrila in manila was one of the greatest fights ever. if these were done by 2 shot fighters, so be it!

[JAB5239]

What's really sad is that so called "shot" version of Frazier was better than ANY heavyweight today. Besides the Klits (and I think he would chop Wlad down) he would decimate any of today's pretenders.

[SharpBoxing]

Both Ali and Frazier were bums anyway. wouldnt stand a chance in todays division.

dont know why peoploe still talk about them. Both are broke and pretty much braindead

[JAB5239]

Both Ali and Frazier were bums anyway. wouldnt stand a chance in todays division.

dont know why peoploe still talk about them. Both are broke and pretty much braindead

Both will be remembered 100 years from now for fighting in the heavyweight divisions greatest era while this era is it's weakest. Outside of the Klits hardly anyone today would even get a top 10 ranking in the early to mid 70's.

[Tiozzo]

Uhh Ali's own management said they chose Frazier for the 3rd fight because he was shot. And if you dont think getting abused in 2 rounds and suffering your first loss hurts you....Frazier won 3 fights after his first loss. 3. One he squeeked by, the other two he looked bad. So Ali made him look good. Guess what, Ali made part time boxer, full time police officer/vagrant Chuck Wepner look good. He made Young, and Shavers look good. PWill is shot because of one punch according to most on here. But Frazier wasnt? What big win did he have after Foreman destroyed him? When Frazier was prime he beat Ali. Ali beating him the2nd and 3rd fight was like Maidana beating Morales. Sure Morales put on a good show, but it wasnt the same as a prime Morales.

they THOUGHT he was shot

they were both past their best anyway

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[JAB5239]

they THOUGHT he was shot

they were both past their best anyway

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Very true. But I'd take that version of Frazier over almost any fighter in history.

[tatangb45]

I don't think he took enough punishment against Foreman for it to really effect him. The fight didn't go long enough and Joe went down when he got hit. Its the fighters that can take the punches and continue to get hit over a long fight that are really effected. I think Joe would have been KO'd quick against Foreman in their second fight if he was really that shot. And as for being too short, I think Joe made his height work for him just like Tyson did. If Joe was a pure boxer, it would be a different story.

In that case, Hatton can still make a comeback.