Let's not forget Bute-Andrade 1

[HeroBando]

Can't be saved by the bell...If a referee rules that Bute was fit to continue even tho he was leaning on the ropes just to stand, he is incompetent...

Andrade TKO 12

That's not what saved by the bell means, at least according to IBF. It means that the bell cannot prevent a downed fighter from being counted out. He needs to rise, but is not required to show he's ready to continue if the ref knows the round is over (for example, by hearing the 10 sec bell before the KD). It's the difference between a KO and a TKO.

That only makes sense, the "dead on his feet" ruling is meant to protect the fighter, it's not ceremonious. And in contrast with JCC-Taylor, there really was 0 time left on the clock. Wright did not act like he knew that, that's what stinks here.

[Bushbaby]

I think most are looking moreso towards when Bute got up, over the refs performance. But to me, it was the refs performance that left the doubt.

IMO Bute got up anywhere between 8 to 10 seconds. But Malon Wright meant for Bute to win period. It took him almost 40 seconds to count to 10.

In boxing there is a time keeper, who also counts the 10 second count with the ref, that way if the ref ushers the other fighter to the neutral corner, the timekeeper keeps the count & signals to thr ref who resume counting forward from the proper count.

Marlon right didn't do that. He stopped the count & started counting from where he stopped even though it was damn near a minute for him to count to 10. He meant Bute was going to win period. The bell didn't even ring until Canada made sure that Bute was on his feet.

It seems to me like even if Andrade had ko'd Bute anytime before the final bell that Wright would have called time out & taken 2 points for the brutal ko, give Bute 5 minutes to recover, then tell Andrade he couldn't punch for the rest of the round, that's how utterly sad his officiating was to me.

Wright could have given Bute the fight simply because he stood up & the controvery wouldn't have been so bad. But he went out of his way to make sure Bute won.

[MJ223]

I remember. I think if the ref would've made Bute come to him he would have fell on his face.

[Russian Crushin]

I think most are looking moreso towards when Bute got up, over the refs performance. But to me, it was the refs performance that left the doubt.

IMO Bute got up anywhere between 8 to 10 seconds. But Malon Wright meant for Bute to win period. It took him almost 40 seconds to count to 10.

In boxing there is a time keeper, who also counts the 10 second count with the ref, that way if the ref ushers the other fighter to the neutral corner, the timekeeper keeps the count & signals to thr ref who resume counting forward from the proper count.

Marlon right didn't do that. He stopped the count & started counting from where he stopped even though it was damn near a minute for him to count to 10. He meant Bute was going to win period. The bell didn't even ring until Canada made sure that Bute was on his feet.

It seems to me like even if Andrade had ko'd Bute anytime before the final bell that Wright would have called time out & taken 2 points for the brutal ko, give Bute 5 minutes to recover, then tell Andrade he couldn't punch for the rest of the round, that's how utterly sad his officiating was to me.

Wright could have given Bute the fight simply because he stood up & the controvery wouldn't have been so bad. But he went out of his way to make sure Bute won.

You just made a completely hypothetical situation and passing it off almost like it actually happened

that's sad

[Bushbaby]

You just made a completely hypothetical situation and passing it off almost like it actually happened

that's sad

Actually I didn't try to pass anything off as if it actually happened, so don't be too sad, whatever you feel, you did that to urself, true story.

[Antwuan Maxx]

he got up before 10, and destroyed andrade in the rematch

^This. And not only that, but Bute was apparently ill going into that first match. Him and his team never made mention of it until after Bute knocked Andrade out in the rematch, because they didn't want to look like they were making excuses.

[Jay Volcano]

Bute got up in time. Anyway, Andrade was butchered in the rematch.

[Forza]

It was a sketchy call but what happened in the immediate rematch? Yeah that's what I thought. It;s not like bute ducked a rematch.

[Convicted_Felon]

Bute got knocked out. The ref saved his hide. He's not undefeated to me. His official record shows him as an undefeated fighter, but he got his butt whooped in that fight. That was a KO.

[Convicted_Felon]

Bute got up in time. Anyway, Andrade was butchered in the rematch.

He got up in time? What fight were you watching and how much time are you talking? If you're talking about real time, he got counted out twice. In 'referee saved his hide' time, then he got up in time.