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  • tomhawq
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    #41
    Originally posted by uglypug
    HUGH!!!! err im just so befuddled! i agree with you HUGH!

    if floyd doesn't want to fight manny, no sense in him sticking around for more than 2-3 more fights. . . literally nothing else left to prove. . .

    we have witnessed a once in a century pugilist, and have been blessed with seeing him accomplish what no other boxer has, from the very first fistic era to the current!
    i agree. there's no other time for pac to retire other than after his fight with marquez. no point in hanging around when the best fighter in the world is reluctant to fight him.

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    • LeadUppercut
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      #42
      Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII
      Exactly, and just to make a point....when all the *****s say that, "well look, Mosley took the test".....they are just ****** enough not to understand that guys like Mosley, Ortiz, or even Marquez....are in NO WAY shape or form, in any position to negotiate ANYTHING!!!!!
      Dont be so ridiculous.

      WTF does " no position to negotiate anything " have to do with it ?

      FACT: Blood tests are completely harmless

      FACT: Stricter testing is great for the sport

      FACT: Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses are absurd.

      FACT: " guys like Mosley, Ortiz, or even Marquez " were clean, so they dont give a ****, because blood tests are completely harmless

      You guys who try to make out that blood testing is somehow akin to open-heart surgery are nothing but excuse-endorsers, who likely dont really want to see the fight.

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      • LeadUppercut
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        #43
        Originally posted by uglypug
        nay good sir! drug testing isn't an issue. . . forget what ariza says, PACQUIAO HIMSELF has been saying it for years that it's not an issue. . . Arum has said it's not an issue either. . .

        Here is a timeline of the past, present and future for pac/floyd:

        Floyd - if u da best, take da test! manny - ok, i agree to your demands, no problem. . Floyd - if you da best, take da test! manny - uhh ok, sure, no problem, when are we gonna fight? Floyd - if u da best, take the test!!!
        Manny - wtf! ill take the test! Floyd - IF U DA BEST, TAKE THE TEST? Manny - bytch ass mahfackah. . . .
        The bottom line is, we have one half-arsed unsubstantiated comment from Arum, that Pacquiao appears to be running with, and a HUGE pile of evidence which indicates that testing is still the major holdup for that fight..... including recent comments from both Freddie Roach and Alex Ariza.

        Anyway, fkn hard luck for Pacquiao.

        Honestly, what sort of response did he expect after walking away from his career-best payday by refusing random blood tests?

        In fact, *** PACQUIAO, because Freddie Roach admitted back in Jan 2010 that people would naturally find Manny's refusal to undertake drug testing su****ious, so what could he honestly expect?

        The onus is now on Manny to prove that he is clean.

        Unless he undertakes full random testing before he retires, then he will always be pacroid to me, and I will always regard him as a fraud.

        If he takes the test and fights Mayweather, the results come back clean, and Manny performs to his usual standard - regardless of the result - I will respect him for it and he will grow in my estimation by blowing some clouds away that have been hanging over his career since the Diaz fight.

        Take the test Manny !!

        One more thing, *** Bob " lying old **** " Arum.

        That old shyster has made an art-form out of lying through his arse, everybody knows it, even his close friends and colleagues. So *** Bob "yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth" Arum for crying that nobody believes the latest round of pac-bull****.

        " USADA are corrupt ".

        Really ?

        GTFOH Arum, you lying old ****.

        The onus is on those known-liars to prove themselves..... we boxing fans are under no compulsion whatsoever to believe a single thing they say.

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        • LeadUppercut
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          #44
          Originally posted by Toxic
          Why not ask PBF to do that as his standard contract for all his opponent!

          Why is it always PAC?
          Because Pacquiao is the only fighter who appears to have an "old" version, and a "new and improved" version.

          Because Pacquiao is the only fighter in recorded history to have gained 13lbs of muscle in 9 months while ripping through 3 divisions, all the while increasing his speed and power.

          Because Pacquiao publicly refused random blood tests and then cited 8 different ridiculous excuses to justify it.

          Because Mayweather strongly suspects that Pacquiao is using steroids.

          Did I cover everything for you ?

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          • delpilar
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            #45
            Pacquiao is the only midget who'll bruised up Floyd's face inside the ring. Floyd knows it & hides in his OSDT excuse.

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            • LeadUppercut
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              #46
              Originally posted by delpilar
              Pacquiao is the only midget who'll bruised up Floyd's face inside the ring. Floyd knows it & hides in his OSDT excuse.
              And yet, Manny did not call Mayweathers "bluff", instead he flatly refused to take the harmless blood test..... the same harmless blood test that Mosley took, that Ortiz took, and any other clean athlete would take..... and yet it is somehow Mayweathers fault, right?

              How the *** do you figure that genius ?

              And the manny-circus continues

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              • empiricix
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                #47
                *****s keep claiming that Pac refused to take the test when in fact he agreed to take the most stringent test ever asked of a fighter at the time. The ONLY point of contention has always been the cut-off date, which Floyd conveniently moved, and not the test itself.

                Before Floyd-Pac, has any fighter ever been required by an opponent to take a blood test for performance enhancement drugs even at 14 days cut-off? NONE! And Pac agreed to that condition.

                Another thing is that the test that Floyd demanded was not Olympic-style drug testing, which was year-round testing, but his own idea of OSDT.

                Finally, Floyd and *****s keep repeating "Take the Test", and yet Floyd won't even enter into formal negotiations with Pac and Arum so that his brand of testing can be incorporated into the fight contract. What the fool wants is literally for Pac to take the test BEFORE he even negotiates a fight.

                If that is not the height of cowardice, then I don't know what is.

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                • South_paw
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                  The bottom line is, we have one half-arsed unsubstantiated comment from Arum, that Pacquiao appears to be running with, and a HUGE pile of evidence which indicates that testing is still the major holdup for that fight..... including recent comments from both Freddie Roach and Alex Ariza.

                  Anyway, fkn hard luck for Pacquiao.

                  Honestly, what sort of response did he expect after walking away from his career-best payday by refusing random blood tests?

                  In fact, *** PACQUIAO, because Freddie Roach admitted back in Jan 2010 that people would naturally find Manny's refusal to undertake drug testing su****ious, so what could he honestly expect?

                  The onus is now on Manny to prove that he is clean.

                  Unless he undertakes full random testing before he retires, then he will always be pacroid to me, and I will always regard him as a fraud.

                  If he takes the test and fights Mayweather, the results come back clean, and Manny performs to his usual standard - regardless of the result - I will respect him for it and he will grow in my estimation by blowing some clouds away that have been hanging over his career since the Diaz fight.

                  Take the test Manny !!

                  One more thing, *** Bob " lying old **** " Arum.

                  That old shyster has made an art-form out of lying through his arse, everybody knows it, even his close friends and colleagues. So *** Bob "yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth" Arum for crying that nobody believes the latest round of pac-bull****.

                  " USADA are corrupt ".

                  Really ?

                  GTFOH Arum, you lying old ****.

                  The onus is on those known-liars to prove themselves..... we boxing fans are under no compulsion whatsoever to believe a single thing they say.
                  Here come's big bad ol' crybaby ass to the rescue!

                  EADUPPERCUT!

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                  • drool
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by empiricix
                    *****s keep claiming that Pac refused to take the test when in fact he agreed to take the most stringent test ever asked of a fighter at the time. The ONLY point of contention has always been the cut-off date, which Floyd conveniently moved, and not the test itself.

                    Before Floyd-Pac, has any fighter ever been required by an opponent to take a blood test for performance enhancement drugs even at 14 days cut-off? NONE! And Pac agreed to that condition.

                    Another thing is that the test that Floyd demanded was not Olympic-style drug testing, which was year-round testing, but his own idea of OSDT.

                    Finally, Floyd and *****s keep repeating "Take the Test", and yet Floyd won't even enter into formal negotiations with Pac and Arum so that his brand of testing can be incorporated into the fight contract. What the fool wants is literally for Pac to take the test BEFORE he even negotiates a fight.

                    If that is not the height of cowardice, then I don't know what is.
                    I don't understand what's so difficult or why he's so reluctant about taking a blood test during random periods of training camp. No other fighter has this problem.
                    Who cares if he takes it before the negotiation. After the fight. Before dinner. After brunch. THE RESULT SHOULD BE THE SAME.

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                    • SyrianUser
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Tiozzo
                      I don't see why a man should stop fighting when he is on top of his game, still young and can go on to add even more to his legacy if he has the desire

                      His legacy is full of Catchweights , KO Losses , Fighting Left Overs , Weight Draining Opponents , Cherry Picking Old Fighters (Mosley,Marquez,De La Hoya...) .


                      Nothing Special At All .

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