Something I didn't know about Cotto/Marg 1!!!

[AnimalisticMeth]

I'm quick to confess that I'd take Cotto's word over Tony's manager as well, but Eaner's a solid poster with inside knowledge (and I THINK he makes trunks/robes/gloves for fighters)...so, I wouldn't be surprised if what Eaner said is true. The guy's knowledgeable. Kinda' bummed if it were true, though. It'd mean that Cotto's making things up (the issue being that he DIDN'T send anyone to Tony's dressing room).

He said Tony manager told him and I believe Tony manager told him that but how do we know that is true? Margarito team are not to be trusted or believed on anything they say.

Again why would Cotto lie on that and take a rematch? If Cotto was liying the best thing he could do is decline the rematch and keep the * on that fight. He really looks pissed off and with real hate if he is liying that hate would be fake and he should be nominated for an Oscar. And why tarnish his reputation by liying? It makes no sense for him to lie on that.

Who are the ones who attempted to cheat? There lies the answer on who we should believe in.

[AnimalisticMeth]

I'm quick to confess that I'd take Cotto's word over Tony's manager as well, but Eaner's a solid poster with inside knowledge (and I THINK he makes trunks/robes/gloves for fighters)...so, I wouldn't be surprised if what Eaner said is true. The guy's knowledgeable. Kinda' bummed if it were true, though. It'd mean that Cotto's making things up (the issue being that he DIDN'T send anyone to Tony's dressing room).

Did he looked with hate in your sig? no he didn't he accepted he lost. His hate began after the Mosley fight and he started to think "did he did that in my fight? i mean we didn't check him so he probably did" and it whent to another level when he saw the picture of the crack in the Margarito's wrap.

is he liying? It doesn't looked like he is.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Apparently, Miguel Diaz was supposed to check Margarito's gloves, but did not because he was tied up with Cesar Canchilla, who fought Giovanni Segura in the co-feature. I heard on another site (I think Dan Rafael said so in one of his chats)that Miguel's doctor or lawyer may have been present during the wrapping, though.

http://www.boxingscene.com/diaz-i-check-margaritos-wraps-cotto-bout--30985

Diaz: 'I Didn't Check Margarito's Wraps Before Cotto Bout'


“I was confident in that particular fight,” Diaz said while speaking from the Palms Casino this past weekend. “When the things happened I had no idea. In that fight I was supposed to be the one who checked the other corner’s wraps. But in that particular fight I had [Cesar] Canchila fighting Giovanni Segura and then I didn’t have the chance to do it and what happened, happened. But I was confident that Miguel was going to beat him. I wasn’t even there. When the thing happened I said ‘Where was I for that particular fight and why didn’t I see it?’. But that got me thinking.”



Here's another article that discusses this same topic :

http://www.boxingscene.com/insider-notebook-cotto-margarito-revisited-roach-talks--23109

"The inspector is there watching the hands get wrapped, and there is also a member of the other team," Kizer said, explaining what typically happens during this time. "Evangelista Cotto was there. And he is not a guy who is very passive. He is a guy who will say, 'What's that?' Very similar to Brother Naazim (Richardson, Mosley's trainer who helped nail Margarito).

"Evangelista is a very hands-on checker. He was there watching it. We had one of our top inspectors, Jack Lazzarotto, one of our most experienced inspectors, back there."

Kizer, speaking via telephone Tuesday, said that referee Jay Nady, who did not work that fight but did work others on the card, also was back in Margarito's room when his hands were being wrapped. Kizer said Nady also observed.

Well, this is where it gets weird. According to Bob Arum, who promotes both Cotto and Margarito, Evangelista Cotto was not in the room at the time.

"First of all, we gotta get the facts right," Arum said. "Evangelista was not in there when the wrapping took place and that led to the breakup between Miguel and Evangelista. Neither was Miguel Diaz there. They were taking care of some f*****g preliminary fighter when all this was going on."

Arum said that is why Cotto eventually fired his uncle as well as Diaz, who is now Pacquiao's cut-man.

"After the February fight (against Michael Jennings), after the comeback fight, that's when he (Miguel Cotto) realized that nobody was back there watching the wraps," Arum said.

Kizer was told of Arum's comments in a follow-up call.

"Well, Bob was not back there, nor was I," Kizer said. "But Jack Lazzarotto and Jay Nady were. And when the hands were wrapped, Evangelista was back there, that was my understanding. ... From everyone I've talked to, Evangelista was back there and he was definitely on his game and definitely observing the hand wraps of Mr. Margarito."

Kizer said that when it comes to checking wraps, Evangelista Cotto is "no wallflower," that he is very active. Kizer also checked his records and said that Evangelista Cotto was not scheduled to work any other fights that night, but he did notice him working the corner of what he believes was the first fight of the card - at about 4 p.m. Kizer said that would have been long before the main event fighters would even arrive at the arena, so that never would have interfered with the time Margarito was having his hands wrapped.

Kizer was also quick to point out that he doesn't believe Arum would say "anything purposely wrong" about this matter.

[AnimalisticMeth]

Apparently, Miguel Diaz was supposed to check Margarito's gloves, but did not because he was tied up with Cesar Canchilla, who fought Giovanni Segura in the co-feature. I heard on another site (I think Dan Rafael said so in one of his chats)that Miguel's doctor or lawyer may have been present during the wrapping, though.

http://www.boxingscene.com/diaz-i-check-margaritos-wraps-cotto-bout--30985

Diaz: 'I Didn't Check Margarito's Wraps Before Cotto Bout'


“I was confident in that particular fight,” Diaz said while speaking from the Palms Casino this past weekend. “When the things happened I had no idea. In that fight I was supposed to be the one who checked the other corner’s wraps. But in that particular fight I had [Cesar] Canchila fighting Giovanni Segura and then I didn’t have the chance to do it and what happened, happened. But I was confident that Miguel was going to beat him. I wasn’t even there. When the thing happened I said ‘Where was I for that particular fight and why didn’t I see it?’. But that got me thinking.”



Here's another article that discusses this same topic :

http://www.boxingscene.com/insider-notebook-cotto-margarito-revisited-roach-talks--23109

"The inspector is there watching the hands get wrapped, and there is also a member of the other team," Kizer said, explaining what typically happens during this time. "Evangelista Cotto was there. And he is not a guy who is very passive. He is a guy who will say, 'What's that?' Very similar to Brother Naazim (Richardson, Mosley's trainer who helped nail Margarito).

"Evangelista is a very hands-on checker. He was there watching it. We had one of our top inspectors, Jack Lazzarotto, one of our most experienced inspectors, back there."

Kizer, speaking via telephone Tuesday, said that referee Jay Nady, who did not work that fight but did work others on the card, also was back in Margarito's room when his hands were being wrapped. Kizer said Nady also observed.

Well, this is where it gets weird. According to Bob Arum, who promotes both Cotto and Margarito, Evangelista Cotto was not in the room at the time.

"First of all, we gotta get the facts right," Arum said. "Evangelista was not in there when the wrapping took place and that led to the breakup between Miguel and Evangelista. Neither was Miguel Diaz there. They were taking care of some f*****g preliminary fighter when all this was going on."

Arum said that is why Cotto eventually fired his uncle as well as Diaz, who is now Pacquiao's cut-man.

"After the February fight (against Michael Jennings), after the comeback fight, that's when he (Miguel Cotto) realized that nobody was back there watching the wraps," Arum said.

Kizer was told of Arum's comments in a follow-up call.

"Well, Bob was not back there, nor was I," Kizer said. "But Jack Lazzarotto and Jay Nady were. And when the hands were wrapped, Evangelista was back there, that was my understanding. ... From everyone I've talked to, Evangelista was back there and he was definitely on his game and definitely observing the hand wraps of Mr. Margarito."

Kizer said that when it comes to checking wraps, Evangelista Cotto is "no wallflower," that he is very active. Kizer also checked his records and said that Evangelista Cotto was not scheduled to work any other fights that night, but he did notice him working the corner of what he believes was the first fight of the card - at about 4 p.m. Kizer said that would have been long before the main event fighters would even arrive at the arena, so that never would have interfered with the time Margarito was having his hands wrapped.

Kizer was also quick to point out that he doesn't believe Arum would say "anything purposely wrong" about this matter.

Kizer looks like a complete idiot in that second article. He first talks about how hands on Evangelista was with Margarito but then says he was not there and is going by what he was told. By the looks of it kizer knows he ****ed up and trying to save face.

[Eaner0919]

Were you there when it happen? if no then they are probably liying and I take Cotto's word over anyone on Margarito's team.

well your biases show about as much as mine now wouldn't it?

trust me I would take the word of Tony's manager over everyone in the sport. His reputation is beyond reproach and generally regarded as one of the more honest men in the industry

[Eaner0919]

To add to this Cotto team didn't send anyone because Margarito team didn't send anyone and out of respect they decided that and because the vegas athletic commision send their people. The problem is the people that were checking the wraps missed the plaster just like the people in LA did until ****m asked them to take the wraps off and do it again. that is when ****m noticed the plaster.

stop lying man

Tony's manager was there to witness Cotto's wraps like he does for every fight Tony has

[$coinblatt$]

Were you there when it happen? if no then they are probably liying and I take Cotto's word over anyone on Margarito's team.

you'd take cotto's word regardless you ****ing d1ck rider

[Eaner0919]

I'm quick to confess that I'd take Cotto's word over Tony's manager as well, but Eaner's a solid poster with inside knowledge (and I THINK he makes trunks/robes/gloves for fighters)...so, I wouldn't be surprised if what Eaner said is true. The guy's knowledgeable. Kinda' bummed if it were true, though. It'd mean that Cotto's making things up (the issue being that he DIDN'T send anyone to Tony's dressing room).

among my many roles in this sport I still work for Tony's co-manager upon occasion finding sparring for Tony's fights (I am the one who got Henry and Love in camp)

I have known him since the Lujan fight. He is the one who goes over to the opponent's side to observe every hand wrap taking place. He was there in Mosley's room when the controversy surrounding Tony happened. He told me he literally walked into a storm of accusations and anger when he asked Tony what happened Tony shrugged and said it had something to do with the wrapping. From that point Sergio advised everyone that they will re-wrap and go forward

the man is literally one of the more honest people in the sport to a fault.

if he has been there for every hand wrapping of every one of Tony's opponents why wouldn't he be there for Cotto too?

people are grasping at straws trying to find every reason to point and go "aha!!!"

people can speculate all they want it's not like the actions in 2009 didn't warrant it. However, I will never allow the integrity of Tony's manager to be questioned without debate. It's fairly impeccable even among on the other side of the coin

[AnimalisticMeth]

stop lying man

Tony's manager was there to witness Cotto's wraps like he does for every fight Tony has

Liying? that came from Cotto's mouth. Again i ask were you there in the locker rooms the night of that figfht? If not don't call me a liar because everything i said came from Cotto's mouth dudring interviews, a men who is one of the most respected in boxing.

[Eaner0919]

Kizer looks like a complete idiot in that second article. He first talks about how hands on Evangelista was with Margarito but then says he was not there and is going by what he was told. By the looks of it kizer knows he ****ed up and trying to save face.

Evangilista wasn't he was busy tending to Cotto

neither was Brian or Phil, they send someone Tony's manager didn't recognize prior.