Comments Thread For: Roach: Marquez Worries Me, Training Pacquiao For The KO

[lopez36]

He isn't going to shut any critics up with this fight. The whole fight is a critical failure. Too Late, Too much weight. He isnt fighting a real WW or an almost WW. He is fighting a blown up, almost 40 yr old LW.

This match has no bearing on the WW or even mythical P4P rankings.

You really think a win, even a brutal one would shut anyone up?

It's a total mismatch. don't look at it
as Marquez but just as a lightweight boxer
Facing pac. a 38 year old lightweight facing
pac. Why is it so hard to just face
guys in your own weight class without
all the catchweights

[WESS]

Pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao has vowed to go toe-to-toe with Juan Manuel Marquez when they meet for a third time in Las Vegas on November 12. The previous two bouts between the pair have been engaging battles, with little between the two men. Marquez has always maintained that he won both, despite having to settle for a draw in their first clash and losing a wafer-thin split decision in the second.

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Roach and Bob Arum both fear that Pac is schooled by Mayweather. Hell Bob said Mayweather was the best thing since Ali. ( I WONDER where Mayweather got it from?)...Bob talks with envy now because he can't make money with THE cash cow of boxing. He also knows Floyd would ***** slap his a$$ if he stole from him. Bob knows Floyd got the best of him and he is pissed to this day about it....

and if Roach is worried about JMM, he would be scared to death to let Pac in the ring with the bigger, better and more technically sound fighter like Mayweather compared to JMM. Styles make fights and Team Pac knows what's up.

Bob "The Milk Man" Arum helped make Mayweather and KNOWS the bizz, when he's ready to let Pac fight Mayweather it will happen. He's been doing this for 50 years, you haters are giving Floyd too much credit if you think FLoyd is stopping Bob ****ing Arum the king of promoters from doing his job.... lol

Bottom line with Pac vs JMM, it is a former JMW champion of the world (remember #8?) vs a LW who can't compete at WW. Extra super duper power puncher king Pac hasn't been able to KO anyone in years. He needs to fight a LW old man in order to that... and yet Roach is still worried? He's just trying to sell the fight. lol

edit: Let's get this over with so we can see Pac sign a legal document that states he WILL take random blood tests and lets see Floyd not b*tch out when Pac in fact does that since he already promised the boxing world he has agreed. This POS JMM fight needs to get over, everyone is waiting to see if Floyd *****es out when Pac signs that document! I'm ready!

[boxingfan76]

He isn't going to shut any critics up with this fight. The whole fight is a critical failure. Too Late, Too much weight. He isnt fighting a real WW or an almost WW. He is fighting a blown up, almost 40 yr old LW.

This match has no bearing on the WW or even mythical P4P rankings.

You really think a win, even a brutal one would shut anyone up?

Exactley great post, dont see too much truth on here...I love JMM but im not paying for this just for the sake of paying for a fight,ill watch it for free somewhere else,not ppv worthy nothing manny since delahoya has been ppv worthy.

[boxingfan76]

Roach and Bob Arum both fear that Pac is schooled by Mayweather. Hell Bob said Mayweather was the best thing since Ali. ( I WONDER where Mayweather got it from?)...Bob talks with envy now because he can't make money with THE cash cow of boxing. He also knows Floyd would ***** slap his a$$ if he stole from him. Bob knows Floyd got the best of him and he is pissed to this day about it....

and if Roach is worried about JMM, he would be scared to death to let Pac in the ring with the bigger, better and more technically sound fighter like Mayweather compared to JMM. Styles make fights and Team Pac knows what's up.

Bob "The Milk Man" Arum helped make Mayweather and KNOWS the bizz, when he's ready to let Pac fight Mayweather it will happen. He's been doing this for 50 years, you haters are giving Floyd too much credit if you think FLoyd is stopping Bob ****ing Arum the king of promoters from doing his job.... lol

Bottom line with Pac vs JMM, it is a former JMW champion of the world (remember #8?) vs a LW who can't compete at WW. Extra super duper power puncher king Pac hasn't been able to KO anyone in years. He needs to fight a LW old man in order to that... and yet Roach is still worried? He's just trying to sell the fight. lol

great post, Im not a jr fan but I agree he would clown pac if they ever fought, IVe never seen or heard Manny say: "I WILL TAKE FULL RANDOM BLOOD TESTS TO FIGHT FLOYD even up until the day of the fight if necessary", only implications and smoke in mirrors.BOTH are avoiding each other that much is clear because the second one of them loses the gravy train is overand a PAC loss would be far far more devastatiing since hes a god to many people,,in Jr's case I dont understand why thats an easy win for him Pac doesnt have the style and just gets hit too much and too cleanly ,plus would have no advantage in speed or even power,to make a win "LIKLEY".

[beatnutts]

This fight is a waste but to be fair, Mayweather hasn't really demonstrated he wants to fight the best either. I think he gets credit for the Ortiz fight but other than that, Mayweather picks and chooses his opponents carefully also. These guys are the same. The two best fighters in the world are scamming the boxing world.

[Fetta]

Like i have posted before that they are trying to build it up but there still is no buzz for this fight. I think the fans know its a mismatch. Even the biggest PAc fan i know said he wont buy this fight cause its waste.

3 PPV this year and they all ******.
Pac vs Mosley=******
Morales fighting for a "gimme belt"
Canelo fight stopped way to early
Ortiz tried to get dirty, kissed Money and got knocked out
Bhop didnt want any
Pac vs JMM is a HOF at a bad weight and we all know it.

I am a diehard boxing fan but witnessing all the hype at a halloween party this past weekend for the UFC i can see why people think boxing is dying.

[WESS]

great post, Im not a jr fan but I agree he would clown pac if they ever fought, IVe never seen or heard Manny say: "I WILL TAKE FULL RANDOM BLOOD TESTS TO FIGHT FLOYD even up until the day of the fight if necessary", only implications and smoke in mirrors.BOTH are avoiding each other that much is clear because the second one of them loses the gravy train is overand a PAC loss would be far far more devastatiing since hes a god to many people,,in Jr's case I dont understand why thats an easy win for him Pac doesnt have the style and just gets hit too much and too cleanly ,plus would have no advantage in speed or even power,to make a win "LIKLEY".

That's why when Pac signs a legal document that states perfectly clear that he in fact agrees to 100% full random blood testing, Floyd either A, bytches out or B, makes the fight.

The ball has always been in Pac's court, he signs a legal document with lawyers, mail it to Mayweather with the media taking 5 million maybe 6 million pictures and wait..... Floyd would in fact have nowhere to go but acknowledge the document. I don't understand why this has no happened yet. It will in fact expose Floyd or it will in fact make the fight.

[beatnutts]

I agree with Wess. If Pac is serious about testing and willing to do it then just draft a contract and ship it to Mayweather and Mayweather should do the same. That's the only way to know who is BSing. Everyone can talk and say they will do this and that but until they actual act, its all BS. Put it in writing to force the other guy to either bitccchc out or fight.

[KTFO]

He isn't going to shut any critics up with this fight. The whole fight is a critical failure. Too Late, Too much weight. He isnt fighting a real WW or an almost WW. He is fighting a blown up, almost 40 yr old LW.

This match has no bearing on the WW or even mythical P4P rankings.

You really think a win, even a brutal one would shut anyone up?

There's no real WW to fight that would have a significant bearing on the division besides Mayweather. As far as P4P, isn't Jmm regarded as top 5 by most people? Sure its a little late and at a higher weight than Jmm has been effective at but don't forget the Jmm has given Pac hell in the previous 2 fights. Styles make fights and Jmm/ Pac are more or less the same size and weight and make for entertaining fights. People who judge Jmm on the Floyd fight should re-evaluate that fight and ask if Jmm did any worse than Floyd's other opponents at WW. Here's a little more info for you, when Pac moved up to WW in '09 Cotto, Clottey, Margs and Mosley were all ranked top 5 WW in "The Ring". You could bring out all the asterisks for each fight but at that point all 4 were top WW's when WW was the best division hands down.

[WESS]

There's no real WW to fight that would have a significant bearing on the division besides Mayweather. As far as P4P, isn't Jmm regarded as top 5 by most people? Sure its a little late and at a higher weight than Jmm has been effective at but don't forget the Jmm has given Pac hell in the previous 2 fights. Styles make fights and Jmm/ Pac are more or less the same size and weight and make for entertaining fights. People who judge Jmm on the Floyd fight should re-evaluate that fight and ask if Jmm did any worse than Floyd's other opponents at WW. Here's a little more info for you, when Pac moved up to WW in '09 Cotto, Clottey, Margs and Mosley were all ranked top 5 WW in "The Ring". You could bring out all the asterisks for each fight but at that point all 4 were top WW's when WW was the best division hands down.

Pretty much sumed it up, however you forgot to give the reason as to WHY it's at WW since there are no real WW's to fight and JMM is a LW...

Pac always plays the "too small" role at WW and has to eat all day to maintain his WW weight yet now he fights a LW and demands it to be at WW?

Also JMM was #2 P4P when Mayweather fought him 2 years ago at WW, yet somehow that didn't matter then so being #5 fighting in the same weight class as he did 2 years ago still doesn't mean anything now. It's still the same weight class vs a "too small" WW. Pac vs JMM could have been at 140 or even 135 but that would be making too much of a fair/even fight.... which is what everyone cried about in the Mayweather fight.

At the end of the day, Pac is going to Ricky Hatton a nearly 40 year old LW who has never looked good or even won a fight at WW.