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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” – The Selling of Pacquiao vs Marquez 3

    by David P. Greisman - The third fight between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez should be an easy sale. But while the pay-per-view broadcast it headlines on Nov. 12 will sell well, the main event itself will take some heavy persuasion for a number of boxing fans to see it as anything other than a clear favorite against an absolute underdog.

    Consider only their first two fights, and those odds are, well, odd.

    Pacquiao-Marquez 1 was a dramatic tilt, the highlights of which have been well chronicled in the seven-and-a-half years since: Pacquiao knocking Marquez down three times in the first round, then Marquez adjusting and battling back. The fight improbably went the full 12 rounds, ending as a controversial draw.

    Pacquiao-Marquez II, which took place three-and-a-half years ago, was another spirited battle, and once again the scorecards represented that: It was a split decision, with one point providing the margin of victory for Pacquiao.

    The third fight between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez should be an easy sell, then. Yet the fight is not between who Pacquiao and Marquez were then, but rather between who they are now.

    They both remain at the top of this sweet science, Pacquiao among the best in the welterweight division, Marquez the reigning, legitimate lightweight champion. [Click Here To Read More]
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    horrible article, from a biased, non-boxing knowing fool. . .

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    • UglyPug
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      #3
      not even gonna get into it again why this is NOT a mismatch. . . How can it be a mismatch based on how their first two fights played out?

      marquez has fought ONCE. . . ONCE at 144. . against a guy who is the best defensive fighter of our time! the hardest style to look good against! also, he didn't even add the weight properly!

      ITS NOT LIKE manny is a natural WW either! he rehydrates to 148, just like marquez! JESUS! why is that so hard for people to understand? IT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO MARQUEZ to treat this ilke a mismatch. . .

      god i hate schooling 'tards like this writer. . .

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      • jmmfan
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        ..........
        Last edited by jmmfan; 01-29-2012, 06:36 AM.

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        • DocG
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          #5
          Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
          by David P. Greisman - The third fight between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez should be an easy sale. But while the pay-per-view broadcast it headlines on Nov. 12 will sell well, the main event itself will take some heavy persuasion for a number of boxing fans to see it as anything other than a clear favorite against an absolute underdog.

          Consider only their first two fights, and those odds are, well, odd.

          Pacquiao-Marquez 1 was a dramatic tilt, the highlights of which have been well chronicled in the seven-and-a-half years since: Pacquiao knocking Marquez down three times in the first round, then Marquez adjusting and battling back. The fight improbably went the full 12 rounds, ending as a controversial draw.

          Pacquiao-Marquez II, which took place three-and-a-half years ago, was another spirited battle, and once again the scorecards represented that: It was a split decision, with one point providing the margin of victory for Pacquiao.

          The third fight between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez should be an easy sell, then. Yet the fight is not between who Pacquiao and Marquez were then, but rather between who they are now.

          They both remain at the top of this sweet science, Pacquiao among the best in the welterweight division, Marquez the reigning, legitimate lightweight champion. [Click Here To Read More]
          As if we care if you buy it or not!!!!

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          • UglyPug
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            #6
            Originally posted by jmmfan
            Marquez is my favorite fighter, and even I admit it's a mismatch. If you don't realize that, you're either incredibly dim or you're such a ******* that you won't admit it. This writer isn't biased at all. I'm just throwing a number out here, but I wouldn't be surprised if 99% of knowledgeable, unbiased boxing fans agree with this article.

            Their last fight was years ago. Pacquiao has gone up in weight very well and has had many fights to adapt. Marquez has had one, and even though it was hard to give him an accurate scoring because he was in against Mayweather, he was dramatically slower, thus a less effective counter puncher, and his body showed clear signs of rejecting that weight.

            Lastly, you're too illiterate to school anyone, especially a seasoned writer who doesn't talk out of his ass.


            you're not a marquez fan. . if you were, you wouldn't be discrediting this match. . . it's DISRESPECTING him. . .

            you cannot base marquez's performance based on mayweather. . . that is a NOOB mistake. . . I think how their first two fights played out is MUCH MORE of an indication than any kind of speculation. . .

            you'll see. . . after hte fight is over, and marquez either wins, or puts up a hell of a fight - you will see your mistake. . . or you will just be a clown and say "see how overrated pacquiao is" EITHER WAY, marquez won't get the credit he deserves if he wins or puts up a good fight. . . so disrespectful. .

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            • RuMbLe
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              It's not even close to being the mismatch Marquez-Mayweather was, where a full-fledge welterweight had a lightweight prepare for 144, while he prepared to come at the limit. Pac has always been an undersized welter, he weighs in his fights typically what LWs and JWWs rehydrate to. We know there will be only a couple lbs difference between Pacquiao and Marquez on fight night. There's also the fact Marquez knows Pac's style better than anyone and gave him hell for 24 rounds previously. Pac could very well overwhelm Marquez, but it's not a certainty.

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                #8
                The fight is a mismatch. da ****k are u *******s talking about in hurrr? Pac IS a full fledged WW so shut dat **** up in hurrr. Marquez doesn't belong above 135, which is why Pac is fighting him at the same catchweight Mayweather fought Marquez at. They know that Marquez will be at a disadvantage fighting above 135. This fight shouldn't be competitive, as Pac has all the advantages on his side, which should give him the edge in this fight.

                If Pac isn't a WW though like some of you say then why make Marquez move up to 144? Why not 140? Because Pac wants "all" the advantages, despite the lack of legitness within the fight.

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                • JOM'S
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                  #9
                  the fight is in a few days so we will see who got this correctly ...

                  IMHO this will be good give and take fight similar to the first two fights while it lasts and PAC finally stopping Marquez from mid to late rounds ...

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                  • KickAzz
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                    #10
                    i used to think this fight was a mismatch, but after seeing jmm get a real strength and conditioning coach, I think it will be a competitive fight that pac wins.

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