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  • #11
    Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Post
    Pacman doesnt look good or like a hero or tuff for taking this fight NOW.,in fact he looks very cowardly for it.. Four years ago was the time to do it not now, because Jmm is still at best a liteweight and to add insult to injury hes almost 40. This fight is personal for Pac only because he knows deep down inside that he lost Both those fights, to me those knockdows werent enough to secure a win because they were early knockdowns, and also because Jmm Won the overall majority of the rounds that ensued in both fights including th ever important championship rounds, then on top of that Marquez landed alot more shots on pacman in BOTH fights. Pacman scored some good knockdowns but what Pacfans refuse to acknowlege is thatJMM actually got up and beat pacyow in pretty much every damn round, and outconnected him by very significant numbers. To a ******* BOTH fights ended at the Knockdowns and that as we all know just didnt happen. If a guy out -connects you by 38 punches and won the most rounds as jmm did in the second fight, YOU LOST! period!JMM has more ko's than pacman does so you cant say those punches were love taps.Now pac should win this time easily even maybe by early ko if hes really that improved, but it wont change history or the fact that JMM was RObbed of 2 victories he DEFINITLEY deserved TWICE.In my book JMM goes down as a great that beat pac twice something which nobody else has accomplished so far, and from the looks of it since Pac refuses to fight guys in their prime or the top challenges wont happen either.
    when pac movede up to welterweight, he fought the 2 of the TOP 5 welterweights in cotto and clottey...fought mosley who was still in the TOP 5 but he was an over rated TOP 5 at that time...fought margarito, who was/is still a dangerous opponant for any welterweight/jr middleweight.

    who should have pac fought that was in his prime when pac entered the welterweight division? none of the prime fighters where in the TOP 5...you say berto? he is over rated and havent had any notable wins at that time.

    you talk about fighters being in their prime...but guess what dude? most of the best fighters in their division are in the early to late 30's...if u didnt know that, then i dont think u know boxing as much as u think u do.

    when pac fought morales, barera, and marquez...they were all called old...both morales and barera werent even in their 30's when pac fought them. marquez was in his early and mid 30's when pac fought him. pac and mayweather are 32 and 34 respectively, but noone talks about both guys being old and shot. even against hatton, both pac and hatton are about the same age, but haters said hatton was old...old? if hatton, morales, barera are old...then how come they dont say pac is old?

    as for cherry picking...how is cherry picking the best jr welterweight at that time cherry picked? and how is fighting 2 of the TOP 5 welterweight as being cherry picked?

    as for catchweight, pac was the one that had to move up in weight against delahoya, then move down to fight hatton, then back up in weight to fight cotto...all those three weight changes he's done for those 3 fights was more of a disadvantage for him then any of those 3 fighters...being that delahoya was already in the planning to fight at the welterweight limit, being that it was hattons best natural fighting weight, and being that cotto only had to lose 1 lb off of his normal 146 official weigh-in weight...hates dont give credit for pacs going up in weight, then down, then up again.

    as for the catchweight for the upcoming fight between pac/marquez, i dont even see a need for a catchweight being that both fighters weigh about the same on fight nite....marquez can go into official weight weighin what he normally does as a light weight and rehydrate to his usual mid to high 140's...while pac usually weighs in at around 144 and rehydrates to no higher than 147...

    by the way, of the total 6 judges that scored the fight, 3 saw pac winning, 2 saw marquez winning, 1 saw a draw (this is the judge that scored it a 10-7 instead of a 10-6, which wouldve given pac a win in the first fight)...the official scores resemble what most boxing people saw, a close fight...but only haters will oppose the chosen winner.

    as for marquez being almost 40, he's actually 38 (nice try tho for making marquez sound older than he really is)...if you know marquez, he'd still beat up most or all of the guys in his division...and that my friend is not being old. you dont call a guy old til he has slowed down or lost a couple or so in a row, such as the case with roy jones jr...so stop this talk about being old...because alot of the top boxers are in their early to late 30's...go do ur homework ;o)

    i mean, is the klichtko brothers old?
    is maravalla martinez old?
    is fraud mayweather old?
    is glen johnson old?
    was bernard hopkins old in his late 30's and early 40's when he was beating up younger guys?
    i can go on with this list...
    and all of these boxers are basically the top boxers in their division

    like i said, go do your home work
    Last edited by indystress; 10-29-2011, 02:50 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
      Manny Pacquiao sat in his closet of a dressing room Wednesday at Wild Card Gym in Hollywood. Surrounded by a handful of reporters and one annoying photographer who rarely stopped clicking away, Pacquiao patiently answered questions put to him.

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      Who is this fkn clown ?

      Another wannabe-Marley hack journo ?

      You fkn idiot writer, what a ****head.

      Dont tell me how or what I should think you moron, keep your whiney opinions to yourself.

      Marquez knows that he won that fight, and he decided to tell the whole world about it, stop crying and deal with it you clown.

      You are a bigger whiner than Marquez you b1tch, because he aint whining anymore and yet you still are.

      Just another pathetic pac-***g hack writer.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by mjkirby View Post
        not really a fair and unbiased story,I mean this could have been wrote by team pac.
        You got that feeling too huh ?

        What a total waste of space this whiney hack journo is.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
          Who is this fkn clown ?

          Another wannabe-Marley hack journo ?

          You fkn idiot writer, what a ****head.

          Dont tell me how or what I should think you moron, keep your whiney opinions to yourself.

          Marquez knows that he won that fight, and he decided to tell the whole world about it, stop crying and deal with it you clown.

          You are a bigger whiner than Marquez you b1tch, because he aint whining anymore and yet you still are.

          Just another pathetic pac-***g hack writer.
          see, even pissdrinker fans are whiners /sore losers. lol

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          • #15
            Originally posted by ThePrince View Post
            It should be clear now that Manny was at a weight disadvantage and SEVERELY drained when he fought Marquez. He took him on at Super Feather and by the end of that same year, he was destroying DLH at WW. It should be clear now that Manny was struggling to make fw and his work at higher weights is a testament to that.

            Marquez never saw Manny at his best, but a weight drained Manny saw the best of Marquez and put him on his ass 4X. So now we get to see what the result will be when the tables are turned
            You are a fkn idiot kid.

            Pac has to eat 6 meals a day and 3am/6am shakes to remain at welter, and a couple of days ago Pac stated that he could still make 135.

            Pac-boy, what is the weather like in pacland today ?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Tulisanto View Post
              see, even pissdrinker fans are whiners /sore losers. lol
              Whereas pac fans are such happy positive people that they have no problem lauding Manny as an ATG even though he only fights little old ladies

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Tulisanto View Post
                see, even pissdrinker fans are whiners /sore losers. lol
                BTW, stop crying b1tch......

                Just because THE ENTIRE DEVELOPED WORLD saw Marquez beat Pacquiao in the second fight you can still love Manny

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                  Whereas pac fans are such happy positive people that they have no problem lauding Manny as an ATG even though he only fights little old ladies
                  it sounds more like u were describing the fraud mayweather...and u can include security gate guards to that list ;o)

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                    Whereas pac fans are such happy positive people that they have no problem lauding Manny as an ATG even though he only fights little old ladies
                    no doubt, were happy for him

                    Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
                    BTW, stop crying b1tch......

                    Just because THE ENTIRE DEVELOPED WORLD saw Marquez beat Pacquiao in the second fight you can still love Manny

                    in pisssdrinker's world maybe.pissdrinker was getting clowned behind his back wearing that shirt too. remember the 24/7 where shane , ****m and his sons were clowning jmm aswell as he struggled to stay up on his ass after getting caught with a left overhand? **** was funny

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                    • #20
                      First fight: Inexperienced pac draws JMM, but was literally robbed - even the judge admitted it for goodness sake

                      2nd fight: Weight drained pac defeats JMM by SD.


                      Now, JMM will not be in his prime and have the weight disadvantages. lets see if he can pull off similar accomplishments

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