Pacquiao vs Marquez III = Ali vs Frazier III?

[ИATAS]

Only that Marquez was a natural LWW and had to move up and Frazier wasn't a 9-1 underdog.

Pacquiao never made the proper adjustments, Marquez did.

I never for one second thought those betting odds were any indication of the fight itself. That's vegas for you. I actually won a couple hundred because I bet the fight would go the distance. After watching the first & especially the second fight again, it was obvious to me marquez was going to give pac hell despite the weight. Like many people have said before the weight wasn't an issue, although, Marquez did look very, very strong on saturday night. Whatever he did he did it right (having that tune up fight at 140 and having more time to add some weight I'm sure helped a lot).

[Larry the boss]

1971 Frazier 205lbs First fight.

1973 Frazier 209lbs Second fight

1975 Fraizer 215lbs Third fight.

Just over 4 year for the record.

And and increase of weight by 10lbs

His last fight was at 140lbs.

So he is coming up half a weight.

[ИATAS]

you got to admit though larry marquez looked pretty strong (weighing it at 150 pounds!) on saturday night and the weight didn't seem to effect him one bit.

It's about styles, not the weight in this case. People love to use the weight as an excuse as to why Marquez lost to floyd but the truth of the matter is floyd is that good and two, it's a terrible style for Marquez to fight (he was forced to be the aggressor and floyd was the counter puncher...that's not where jmm shines the brightest).

[D4thincarnation]

Marquez also knows Pacquiao's game so well now.

Marquez is not as quick as Pacquiao slower reactions but his anticipation, is what makes the difference.

Does anyone think that these fighters raise their game when facing their chief rival?


With the size issue, both guys are the same size, Pacquiao needs proteins shakes to stay at welter, so does Marquez, only last time he tried it never took the shakes.

[F l i c k e r]

Marquez was robbed by the judges.

Frazier was robbed of glory by Eddie.

[ИATAS]

Marquez was robbed by the judges.

Frazier was robbed of glory by Eddie.

there are people who scored the second fight for fraizer as well...

[NChristo]

there are people who scored the second fight for fraizer as well...

The second fight was not close at all, Ali dominated it, Frazier still seemed mentally ****ed from the Foreman defeat it seemed and wasn't there at all where as Ali was in great shape and wanted his revenge.

[clmags12]

Marquez was robbed by the judges.

Frazier was robbed of glory by Eddie.

Bro, you cant say robbed. He was looking out for Joe's eyesight, at the moment decision.

Ali even admitted he would collapsed if he got up again.

[clmags12]

To the TS, the rivalry in Manny/JMM is equal to Ali/Frazier I agree.

But to compare those 2 fights? It doesn't sound right bro..

[D4thincarnation]

Bro, you cant say robbed. He was looking out for Joe's eyesight, at the moment decision.

Ali even admitted he would collapsed if he got up again.

He was looking out for Joe's life.