and if you think all those guys you mentioned werent coming off decisive career altering and brutal losses and werent on a downward spiral at by the time pac fought them, than I cant say much about your intelligence or honesty for that matter.as you just said margarito is bigger but is he better than martinez?? hell no!he had to lose and look like shiaat before pac fought him a re-occurring theme and pre-requistite to fight pac,and what i dont get is what is the point then?? if a guy loses in boxing his status and standing plummets unless he was robbed, and thats not the case here, beating guys that at one time were great many moons ago doesnt mean to me pac is great and doesnt prove anything other than pac fights for money and little risk not really to provide the paying public with great fights. therefore blowing out any b.s. excuse pac makes not to face martinez like his latest 147lb demand. what gets me is pac fans call this hate its not hate its the truth, pac will keep moving the bar in order to not face guys who can send him into retirement.both pac and mayweather are documented liars so its tough to tell which one is afraid of the other."Ill fight Martinez at 150lbs so that the weight is fair for me and the both of us" -manny pac.what happened manny got cold feet now that sergio agreed to 150lbs???

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