Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: If Sergio Martinez Can Make 147, I'll Fight Him

[DoktorSleepless]

I forget witch interview he said it at,it was a long while back when they first starting about a Pacquiao or Floyd match up against Martinez,(they also mentioned if he would be willing to rematch Margirito and Martinez basically said there wouldn't be anydraw for that fight and he was killing himself back then to make welter weight

I don't mean to imply you're lying, but I highly doubt he said this. He continued to fight at WW after Margarito and didn't really move up until 12 fights later when he got a shot at the IBO 154 belt against Richard Williams. I've heard him say several times his fight with Richard Williams was the hardest fight he ever had because he was still fighting as a WW at the time and the only reason he moved up was because he won the belt. And the only excuse I've heard for his loss against Margarito is that he was green. Nothing about weight being an issue.

[Lords]

Manny first says he'll fight ANYONE at 150 or below and even said if Sergio can make the 150 he'll fight him, now he's saying that Sergio has to go down to 147? Whata p*ssy.

[jknightx]

I don't mean to imply you're lying, but I highly doubt he said this. He continued to fight at WW after Margarito and didn't really move up until 12 fights later when he got a shot at the IBO 154 belt against Richard Williams. I've heard him say several times his fight with Richard Williams was the hardest fight he ever had because he was still fighting as a WW at the time and the only reason he moved up was because he won the belt. And the only excuse I've heard for his loss against Margarito is that he was green. Nothing about weight being an issue.

N/P dude, but he did in fact say he was killing himself to make the welter weight limit a couple of times,I have no doubt Marvella would drain himself down to make a cath weight fight at 150lbs ,but even this would be a major drain on Martinez he is already chiseled at 158lbs.And niether guy would get credit for the fight,If Pac won people would say it was becuase Marvella was drained,if Martinez won it is because he was picking on a fighter a lot smaller than him.In the end it is not a fight that should happen,but as always money talks and if the money offered is great enough they just might make it happen

[junior gong]

garbage. this sissy will never fight maravilla at any weight. he's just saying this to force a maravilla vs mayweather so he can continues to duck money. pacquiao wants no part of mayweather. he does'nt want to take the real testing and he's using the lawsuit to duck everything.pacs a fraud.

pacroid you are full of ****... a fraud.. you can fight at 154 or even your weak catch weights of 150.. you just wat to drain him some more.. you are a joke.. you know floyd would fight him at 154 now you are opening your jibbs.. get outta here you steroid using clown.. look at the size of your head.

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Martinez said he is a natural WW and that he can make the weight easy so let's get it on.

^^^Some examples of the complete ******ity levels in this thread. *****s and *******s seem to be able to spin complete horse shit out of absolutely nothing.

[boxingfan76]

AND WHAT ROUND DID MAYWEATHER KNOCK JMM OUT IN? In fact tell me who has knocked out JMM?JMM is a tough little bastered who is cagey and durable.

Im not a mayweather fan but to be fair mayweather managed to get much closer to knocking out jmm than pac or anyone has for that matter because he had jmm in more and more trouble late in the fight, the reason he didnt score the ko is because mayweather was very careful and preferred to not risk anything and instead assure a points win, its the Only time mayweather has fared better than pac with common opponents,and its 100% because of the styles,both jmm and maywther are counter punchers and mayweather left nothing for jmm to counterpunch,pacmans style plays to jmm strengths what offensive fighter has ever done well or even beaten jmm ???none.pac did on paper but not really in real life,pac was awarded a draw and a 1 point win for boxing politics not because he really beat jmm he hasnt .jmm won too many rounds jmm blunted pacs game and jmm soundly outlanded pac in both fights especially the 2nd. pacyow has the advantages in speed power,size and age and that may finally allow him to beat jmm convincingly, and if he does mange to ko jmm it will still be in a heated war and simply because pac has the physical advantges not because hes really a better fighter than jmm. bigger faster younger yes but better? no way.this is a revenge fight for pac he didnt wait this long to face jmm for nothing,again in typical pac style he waited till he holds every single advantage to take this fight, but it wont change a thing jmm still won those 2 fights, so if pac wins by ko its still 2 to 1 for jmm.in my book jmm wont be any less great if he loses it was just a matter of too late.....

[Mr. Invincible]

I say who cares?? too little too late and definitley not worthy of a ppv.whats that fight prove really??? that pac had to wait 4 years and move up 4 wtclasses before he could rubber match an almost 40 yr old albeit great lightweight whom out- landed him two fights in a row??? its just more of the same for manny , its definitley a better fight than pacs last 5 but its not a fight that really matters or that will enhance either guys legacey nor does it erase the fact that manny and fighters like him the top stars are too reluctant to give us the fights we really want to see.pac may ko jmm but dominate him I dont see that unless jmm has really slowed down just another cheap fight for pac.pacs greatest asset is still speed and power, he hasnt been able to out think jmm in 24rounds wont do it now pac is still very susceptible to guys who can box as mosley proved.,if pac kos jmm or even wins will be because hes a very hard puncher and just hold too many advantages at this point in time.nobody prefers this fight over a mayweather fight or a martinez fight only manny and his team do for very obvious reasons......again cheap fight and cheap win too little too late.but better than his last 5 which is just sad....if your a fight fan, if your a pacfan its buisness as usual.

Well, if you think Ocsar, Hatton & Cotto was a soft touch, I can't say much for your intelligence. What about a huge Margarito? Don't you realize that Margarito os naturally larger than Martinez. Anyways, the Marquez fight isn't too late if the fighters involved agree that there's still a score to be settled. I just think you need to take the Pac hater glasses off.

[Mr. Invincible]

You guys need to stop hating on Pacquiao's selection of opponents[yes, his selection, not Bob Arum]. The dude became an ATG by beating up one style of opponent and that's the come forward/defenseless style AKA "a fighter who comes to fight". If that's who he wants to keep fighting and never step up to fight different styles, then so be it, his fans are happy for what he has done for the sport and that's what matters. Getting him to fight Bradley is already gonna be a mission, but that's the only non-come forward fighter I see him realistically fighting.

He never fought/never will fight the Raheems, Guzmans, Mayweathers, Martinez of the world cause he has a cap on what style he can beat/look good against and these guys don't fit that description, out of those three he coulda probably beaten Raheem but still he chose the loser of Raheem-Morales, something we still see him doing even now, choosing the loser of a fight.

Once Pacquiao haters understand this and just take Pacquiao for what he is, then it'll be easier to love him and enjoy his fights. Stop asking so much from some one when you know they have a limit. Every one has a limit.

"The dude became an ATG by beating up one style of opponent and that's the come forward/defenseless style AKA "a fighter who comes to fight".

If I'm not mistaken, this is the same think Mayweather has done considering he fought many of the same fighters Pac has since beaten more impressively.

I'm not hating on Floyd, but he is ducking Pacquiao. It's clearer than ever now.

[Taaj Manzoor]

Martinez is not DLH!

[Mr. Invincible]

AND WHAT ROUND DID MAYWEATHER KNOCK JMM OUT IN? In fact tell me who has knocked out JMM?JMM is a tough little bastered who is cagey and durable.

Definitely true. Mayweather did handle Marquez pretty easily but I gaurantee he doesn't have that kind of night vs. Pacquiao if he ever mans up and fights him.

Think about this. The whole reason that Mayweather supposedly hasn't agreed to fight Pac is that Floyd thinks Manny's so damn good that he has to be tested for ped's.

That says it all. Mayweather doesn't want to face Pac.

That's it. End of story.

[-Kev-]

"The dude became an ATG by beating up one style of opponent and that's the come forward/defenseless style AKA "a fighter who comes to fight".

If I'm not mistaken, this is the same think Mayweather has done considering he fought many of the same fighters Pac has since beaten more impressively.

I'm not hating on Floyd, but he is ducking Pacquiao. It's clearer than ever now.

Look at when he beat them though, and in what position they were when he beat them.