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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #721
    Originally posted by Flo_Raiden
    Just a bad style match up is all. Donaire came to put on a show and the other guy came to survive with a huge check. Moreno is no different to Narvaez as he's also defensive minded southpaw, although taller. Had Donaire fought Moreno as originally planned the fight wouldn't have looked any different IMO.

    Donaire seriously needs to move up ASAP.
    I stopped reading right here.......................

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    • El.Naranjito707
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      #722
      Naravaez put up more of a fight than Clottey lol.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #723
        Originally posted by sicko
        People are mad at Narvarez because he did not "LET DONAIRE LOOK IMPRESSIVE AND KNOCK HIM OUT"

        Narvaez maybe have laid out a blue print on at least what works against Donaire...Narvarez was landing jabs and he was landing them easily and Donaire had no answer for his defense
        I'm mad at Narvaez because he didn't try to win. Many fighters look less than great against fighters who just try to survive. Ward/Froch against Abraham, Pacquiao against Clottey and Mosley, Pirog against Maciel are some recent examples.

        I can't believe there is a blueprint in what Narvaez did. He did nothing that had him close to winning the fight. Surviving against a fighter and having a chance to beat a fighter are two different things.

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        • thebowtod
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          #724
          Originally posted by Wlad
          Again look at the size difference, it was supposed to be a blowout and an opponent to make him look good after a long layoff and in front on the new york audience, but instead its was a piss poor performance and he was booed throughout the fight.
          he wasn't booed, his opponent was booed for being a *****

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          • BuckToothed
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            #725
            Originally posted by sicko
            People are mad at Narvarez because he did not "LET DONAIRE LOOK IMPRESSIVE AND KNOCK HIM OUT"

            Narvaez may have laid out a blue print on at least what works against Donaire...Narvarez was landing jabs and he was landing them easily and Donaire had no answer for his defense

            Narvaez came to survive though, not sure if he really "WANTED TO WIN"
            No credit for fighting scared. Period.
            It's not like he tried to fight then retreated when unsuccessful.
            He was on his shell the entire fight.
            After Donaire tagged him a few times early, afterwards Narvaez covers even on feints. Pathetic, and everyone else's who applauds a fighting loser.

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            • sicko
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              #726
              Naw I always said Moreno gives Donaire problems at 118 AS DOES Agbeko

              some of you are "OVERRATING DONAIRE" because he KO'd Montiel, he is good....he is VERY GOOD but certainly not unbeatable and he surely has his FLAWS just like so many fighters

              Moreno is extremely slick and has a nice jab, the difference with him and even Rigondeaux is that they use their defense to setup their offense, they make you miss then counter you every time to make a mistake...so of course neither match up would be "EASY FOR DONAIRE" as some people was predicting after he KO's Montiel

              Also as Garcia is as a trainer...I notice that a lot of his fighters lack HEAD MOVEMENT...EVEN DONAIRE! Early in that fight, Navarez was landing his jab effortlessly
              Last edited by sicko; 10-23-2011, 11:26 AM.

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              • AntDawg
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                #727
                Originally posted by El.Naranjito707
                Naravaez put up more of a fight than Clottey lol.
                That's a lie and you know it. At least Clottey messed up Pacquiao's face. Heck I bet Clottey threw more too.

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                  #728
                  As I said before the fight, I thought it would go the distance because of Narvaez's defensive skills where he doesn't take too many risks. I just didn't expect him to go into a shell the way he did. Anyways, it's hard to look good against a guy who keeps his guard up all the time. Donaire will shine when he fights a guy like Arce, who is more open defensively and much more willing to take risks.

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                  • sicko
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                    #729
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    I'm mad at Narvaez because he didn't try to win. Many fighters look less than great against fighters who just try to survive. Ward/Froch against Abraham, Pacquiao against Clottey and Mosley, Pirog against Maciel are some recent examples.

                    I can't believe there is a blueprint in what Narvaez did. He did nothing that had him close to winning the fight. Surviving against a fighter and having a chance to beat a fighter are two different things.
                    Blueprint as far as being at to catch Donaire with Jabs because of his lack of head movement, as well as being able to FRUSTRATE HIM when he can't have his way

                    At the same time I thought Donaire could have done...MORE! Maybe applied the pressure even more against at SITTING TARGET and MIXED UP HIS PUNCHES instead of head hunting and trying to get a KO to impress everybody

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                    • sicko
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                      #730
                      Originally posted by BuckToothed
                      No credit for fighting scared. Period.
                      It's not like he tried to fight then retreated when unsuccessful.
                      He was on his shell the entire fight.
                      After Donaire tagged him a few times early, afterwards Narvaez covers even on feints. Pathetic, and everyone else's who applauds a fighting loser.
                      never said I was giving him PROPS, I'm just saying that it is not the opponents job to HELP YOU LOOK GOOD, Walk his A$$ DOWN and Apply the PRESSURE EVEN MORE...especially when he is just covering up and not throwing back much

                      I also seen Donaire in this fight land a good punch and not follow it up with anything...but I am a fan of Donaire and I will give him the Benefit of the Doubt and say that the long lay off and a little rust might have effected him last night

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