PED:Pacquiao's Progression from LW to WW. Floyd Gets Owned!

[megadeth]

in the first negotiations why did floyd asked for the drug test? what are his basis for asking one? thats what i want to know..

Probaby because he feels that Pac is on something. It his opinion. It is his choice to ask for the OSDT concession as well, just as it was Pac's choice to ask for the concessions that he requsted. Just because the basis doesn't fit your agenda, doesn't make it any less valid. I would love for you to explain to how 2 guys can ask for concessions for things normally controlled by the commission and are above and beyond what has ever been asked for before, yet the one that agrees to the concession is a coward and a ducker and the one that doesn't is without blame and justified for not agreeing. Please explain that logic.

Please explain as well, what the basis is, for Pac to asking for 10mil per lb over the WW limit. FMJ has NEVER been over the weight limit of a division. Pac has been over the legal limit of his division not once, but 2x!! Not making a CATCHWEIGHT(3 lbs less than the WW Limit) after taking a 22 month break at the age of 32 is no basis to say that he would not make the WW limit. Especially when he weighed in 1lb below the legal WW limit for the Marquez fight.

Another one...What is the basis for Pac to decline the tests, when originally his team said "sure, no problem" to the tests?

[BABYBOXER]

who said that if you get bigger, you don't get stronger?

that's why there's a weight division, right? if you're bigger, you're stronger.

if you don't agree with me, consider yourself as a ******...

[megadeth]

its not an issue on the last 40 fights of floyd until he asked manny to take one..

When was the last time Manny asked for a penalty of 10 mil per lb over the weight limit?

[carts]

When was the last time Manny asked for a penalty of 10 mil per lb over the weight limit?

cuz of the jmm fight thats the reason why he asked for the 10 mil limit on floyd and i know u know that..

[carts]

Probaby because he feels that Pac is on something. It his opinion. It is his choice to ask for the OSDT concession as well, just as it was Pac's choice to ask for the concessions that he requsted. Just because the basis doesn't fit your agenda, doesn't make it any less valid. I would love for you to explain to how 2 guys can ask for concessions for things normally controlled by the commission and are above and beyond what has ever been asked for before, yet the one that agrees to the concession is a coward and a ducker and the one that doesn't is without blame and justified for not agreeing. Please explain that logic.

Please explain as well, what the basis is, for Pac to asking for 10mil per lb over the WW limit. FMJ has NEVER been over the weight limit of a division. Pac has been over the legal limit of his division not once, but 2x!! Not making a CATCHWEIGHT(3 lbs less than the WW Limit) after taking a 22 month break at the age of 32 is no basis to say that he would not make the WW limit. Especially when he weighed in 1lb below the legal WW limit for the Marquez fight.

Another one...What is the basis for Pac to decline the tests, when originally his team said "sure, no problem" to the tests?

so manny can refuse if he wants to right? the reason i asked is the basis on why floyd suddenly asked OSDT after his 40 fights w/o asking one in the past? he even said JMM is better than pac but did he asked JMM for OSDT? nah! so give me a valid reason why did he asked manny to take a test? not just he thinks manny is on to something..

[edgarg]

When manny pacquiao aka congressman wished floyd good luck with his legal problems (acting all sincere) why did he file a lawsuit??Just saying that shows you how sincere and honest mr congressman is.

Pac first had the chance to take the fight with a 17 day gap he didn't want to..so that shows you that he's hiding something.

Asking for 10 million dollar penalties..

Now already fights lined up after JMM (catch weight)

Top rank doesn't want anything to do with mayweather.

No it doesn't show that "he's hiding something". All the acknowledged experts, including the convicted on(s) have stated that given a day or two, any test could be taken without showing anything up. Pacquiao just didn't like the intrusiveness and ignorant brashness of the self-styled "best fighter ever"............. he comes from Asia where they have different traditions, customs and manners, very self effacing and extremely polite. They naturally agree with everyone, even if really opposed.

I myself experienced this, years ago, on a major business trip to Japan. Could have caused us a lot of problems later when we really found out what was what, except that we ourselves had miscalculated the time needed to prepare our machinery.

[edgarg]

Probaby because he feels that Pac is on something. It his opinion. It is his choice to ask for the OSDT concession as well, just as it was Pac's choice to ask for the concessions that he requsted. Just because the basis doesn't fit your agenda, doesn't make it any less valid. I would love for you to explain to how 2 guys can ask for concessions for things normally controlled by the commission and are above and beyond what has ever been asked for before, yet the one that agrees to the concession is a coward and a ducker and the one that doesn't is without blame and justified for not agreeing. Please explain that logic.

Please explain as well, what the basis is, for Pac to asking for 10mil per lb over the WW limit. FMJ has NEVER been over the weight limit of a division. Pac has been over the legal limit of his division not once, but 2x!! Not making a CATCHWEIGHT(3 lbs less than the WW Limit) after taking a 22 month break at the age of 32 is no basis to say that he would not make the WW limit. Especially when he weighed in 1lb below the legal WW limit for the Marquez fight.

Another one...What is the basis for Pac to decline the tests, when originally his team said "sure, no problem" to the tests?

These "concessions" are NOT "normally controlled by the Commission" they are the result of contract negotiations, as long as they are not illegal according to the Commission rules.
Contracts contain all kinds of things which is why they use lawyers especially expert in boxing
contract negotiations........ Whew...... Some people can't see their noses in front of their faces.

[megadeth]

I think this is nonsense. The 10 mill was an obvious PR stunt. You posters are a credulous bunch of kids. Mayweather didn't care if it was 100 mill because he knows well that he easily makes 147 50 times out of 50, if he needed to.

Wow, you will give Pac a pass for everything huh? If it's Pac going above and beyond the commission, its a PR stunt. If it's Floyd, he is being a coward. I wonder if Eric Morles thought the 500k per lb penalty that Pac imposed on him was a PR stunt. I know him looking like a concentration camp survivor had nothing to do with the fact that it had nothing to with a "PR stunt". Or Oscar weighing in at 145. Yep, that was PR too right?

Mayweather didn't care if it was 100 mill because he knows well that he easily makes 147 50 times out of 50, if he needed to.

So then, why don't you apply this to Pac and place some blame. If he is so clean, and he knows he would easily pass the test 50 out of 50 times, if he needed to, why so many issues about the test for so long?

What is more telling in this whole thing is that Keith Kizer of the Nevada State Ath. Comm. said that Arum, MannyP and Golden balls had signed off on random testing but Mayweather wouldn't.

Or it could just mean that he doesn't feel that the commission testing was adequate. Not to mention that he Pac made his demands and Floyd had to accepted them. I'm sure Floyd felt like he is making his own and Pac needs to accept his as well. What is wrong with that?
So that is telling to you, yet the acceptance of the drug testing, only to change their minds, the lies about training, superstition, fear of needs, the conflicting stories about accepting the terms, the ready made/promised fight before the previous fight is completed, fighting a chorus of old or 1/2 shot, come forward fighters, not to mention the fact that Pac turned down 50 million for a drug test i not telling at all to you right? Bias much?

This public announcement should have settled all the crazed posters' conspiracy nutty concoctions, but . it obviously has been ignored or not seen. I believe that most people saw it printed on this site.

All of the above things should've settled all the crazed posters' conspiracy nutty concoctions, but it obviously has been ignored or not seen. Not to mention a huge does of Pac Nuthuggary!

[megadeth]

cuz of the jmm fight thats the reason why he asked for the 10 mil limit on floyd and i know u know that..

I don't recall the Floyd being over the WW limit for that fight. In fact, I don't recall him being overweight at all, since it was changed to a 147 fight, with penalties over 144.

But there has been someone over his weight limit before in this equation. Wonder who that could be.

[Larry the boss]

cuz of the jmm fight thats the reason why he asked for the 10 mil limit on floyd and i know u know that..

but manny came in over the DIVISIONAL limit 2 times in his career.floyd has NEVER came in overt he DIVISIONAL limit