PED:Pacquiao's Progression from LW to WW. Floyd Gets Owned!

[M.I Truth ?]

I think the Pac not wanting to test has more people su****ious than anything. Also when I spoke to Roger before the the Mayweather vs Ortiz fight one of the things we talked about was how quick Pac filled out. Floyd was competing at welter for years before he truly filled out and looked natural there. The difference his body when he first got to the division compared to now is noticeable. Pac has filled out a lot quicker. Thats not to say that he is on PEDs or anything but just to show that his body did progress a lot faster than Floyd. Maybe Pac should have been at welter earlier. Who knows. Either way they both need to test and fight. Hopefully they make it happen.

[carts]

we all found out ..when pac said no to a 50 million dollar worth drug test..he rather fight floyds leftovers and top rank bums.

but at the end of the day...how would you like to be remembered??

as the guy who asks for a blood test to keep the sport clean or the guy who said no to a simple drug test worth 50 mill??

in the first negotiations why did floyd asked for the drug test? what are his basis for asking one? thats what i want to know..

[carts]

common sense I hang around with lot's of people from the filipines and cambodia..they will tell you the same thing..they gain weight but in their later stages of life..with 45 or 50..and when they gain it they sure aren't looking ripped.

so you compared manny an athlete with conditioning diets and training to a random asian guy you just know?

[Larry the boss]

why drop the testing..both should just take the damn test and fight.why not?

???????????whats the issue???why is testing an issue at all?

[carts]

???????????whats the issue???why is testing an issue at all?

its not an issue on the last 40 fights of floyd until he asked manny to take one..

[Larry the boss]

its not an issue on the last 40 fights of floyd until he asked manny to take one..

its a drug test man..whats the big deal? floyds taking the same damn test...................1st "oh he agreed"..no all the sudden its a issue again?? floyds wants him tested cause he thinks he's on something..why dont you understand that?

[jjbj2]

I think the Pac not wanting to test has more people su****ious than anything. Also when I spoke to Roger before the the Mayweather vs Ortiz fight one of the things we talked about was how quick Pac filled out. Floyd was competing at welter for years before he truly filled out and looked natural there. The difference his body when he first got to the division compared to now is noticeable. Pac has filled out a lot quicker. Thats not to say that he is on PEDs or anything but just to show that his body did progress a lot faster than Floyd. Maybe Pac should have been at welter earlier. Who knows. Either way they both need to test and fight. Hopefully they make it happen.

People of any races when they eat constantly, on time, and properly will fill out rightly. College students either looked fat sitting in front of their computers and classes, being lazy, and partying too much or are lean and muscular due to athletics and social activities.

Pacquiao spent his childhood barely eating anything and competing just to eat. He looked short and skinny for someone who doesn't regularly eat well, no one teaching him proper nutrition, and just going by brute strength in boxing.

Floyd developed everything in a calculated manner. Going up in weight to compete because either he can't make weight or it make sense at those times. He has his uncles and father to guide him in boxing. His family is well taken care off because his uncle made bank in his career and his father made decent money providing him with food and shelter since birth. He is always surrounded by intelligent people knowledgeable in nutrition and training. Everything was and is in front of Floyd Mayweather Jr. since day one.

Pacquiao on the other hand fought for everything in his lifetime. Now, he can make demands to his trainer and promoter he wants to go up in weight because he doesn't like cutting weight anymore. Now, he fights in a weight class he is comfortable in never cutting weight and just maintaining it below 147 lbs. The man earned this right by fighting the best and winning the hard fights in his career. His body "filling out" is just the natural reaction of a person who is finally able to eat peacefully and constantly everyday surrounded by a knowledgeable trainer and nutritionist just like Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[CasualBoxingFan]

Wrong thread buddy. Theres' a sticky for it.

[edgarg]

While this article makes sense from a size perspective it fails to mention Pacquaio's ever increasing power as he was going up in weight. That is unusual. Usually a fighter that goes up in weight don't carry the same power and Pacquaio was knocking people out left and right or making them quit from too much punishment as he was going up in weight. When Pacquiao was fighting at 126 would you have believed it if somebody told you he was going to knock down freaking Shane Mosley who was fighting at 154-160 to the point of making him being scared to death? and then say he had never been hit as hard as that.

My opinion is that youre wrong. He was forcing himself down to the lighter weights, so would naturally be weaker, although still very powerful. A man who is fit and becomes heavier will naturally have a more powerful punch. This is the natural progression.

Are you expecting him to still punch like a flyweight??? Silly.

[edgarg]

the same could be said about duckqiao asking for a 10 million dollar penalty,filing a lawsuit, saying no to the test and now already tim bradley lined up after his CATCH WEIGHT fight against jmm..all signs that pac doesn't want to fight.

I think this is nonsense. The 10 mill was an obvious PR stunt. You posters are a credulous bunch of kids. Mayweather didn't care if it was 100 mill because he knows well that he easily makes 147 50 times out of 50, if he needed to.

What is more telling in this whole thing is that Keith Kizer of the Nevada State Ath. Comm. said that Arum, MannyP and Golden balls had signed off on random testing but Mayweather wouldn't.

This public announcement should have settled all the crazed posters' conspiracy nutty concoctions, but . it obviously has been ignored or not seen. I believe that most people saw it printed on this site.