Comments Thread For: Photos/Fight Blog: Juan Manuel Marquez's Camp Part 1

[Best in Boxing]

WOW!!!! Man Marquez is going to bring war and god Pacquiao you know he will as well. I cannot wait !! This will be a classic. A lot of people will be ordering this the same saturday. The intrigue is too much.

There will be war.

When else would they want to order it? a week before? a week later?

[Bombs]

I order it as soon as is available on my TV. Usually about 3-4 days before fight. I have to make sure it is active and ready for fight night.

Those denying they are excited about it will give in to temptation right on Saturday night, you included boxing. That's a fact. They will battle their hatred and their intrigue for the fight until they will give in. And they will give in. Because everyone knows this fight will be exciting and entertaining.

And everyone will want to know, how it all went down.

[Toyman]

Actually, to be totally surprised by Pac's speed in the first round, but ADJUST and fight your way all the way back to a draw does show that, at that point and time in their careers, Marquez was the better fighter. Pac just ambushed him in that first round, but wasn't able to continue that same attack and didn't adjust himself to marquez.

i know some ppl bring up that one judge didn't score the first round correct which would have given pac another 1 pt. win.

But what those ppl fail to mention is that after the initial round, and marquez figured pac's style out = HE DOMINATED THE REST OF THE FIGHT to have it be close. Pac shoulda never let it get that close. So to say the it was only a draw b/c of the judge's mistake doesn't really cut it here. Pac shoulda never let it that close if he was the better fighter that night.

Now for this fight though. I think Pac's speed and angles will give marquez too many problems. the mystery here is how will marquez adjust to the increase in weight. If he's slow like in the floyd fight, then pac will overwhelm him. But if he gains weight better this time around, like he says he will do, then i think his countering will give pac fits again.

Even if he gives pac problems though, i don't see marquez finishing this fight.

1st fight, 7-5 for marquez, but thats not enough to erase the first round.

the judge even admitted he scored it wrong and pac should have won. so although officially a draw, we know pac really won that fight.

2nd fight 6-6 - pretty much even except for the kd so pac won again.

[Best in Boxing]

1st fight, 7-5 for marquez, but thats not enough to erase the first round.

the judge even admitted he scored it wrong and pac should have won. so although officially a draw, we know pac really won that fight.

2nd fight 6-6 - pretty much even except for the kd so pac won again.

if you read my post:

But what those ppl fail to mention is that after the initial round, and marquez figured pac's style out = HE DOMINATED THE REST OF THE FIGHT to have it be close. Pac shoulda never let it get that close. So to say that it was only a draw b/c of the judge's mistake doesn't really cut it here. Pac shoulda never let it get that close if he was the better fighter that night.


EDIT: With that type of lead after the first round, he must have gotten worked the rest of the fight for marquez to come close and make is so controversial, right? or is that just something that you can't comprehend??

[Toyman]

if you read my post:

But what those ppl fail to mention is that after the initial round, and marquez figured pac's style out = HE DOMINATED THE REST OF THE FIGHT to have it be close. Pac shoulda never let it get that close. So to say that it was only a draw b/c of the judge's mistake doesn't really cut it here. Pac shoulda never let it get that close if he was the better fighter that night.


EDIT: With that type of lead after the first round, he must have gotten worked the rest of the fight for marquez to come close and make is so controversial, right? or is that just something that you can't comprehend??

ok, but whats the point of only talking about the last 11 rounds of the first fight? Ya, he dominated 7 of the next 11 rounds. What good is that gonna do when you got kd'd 3 times in the first round.

Either way you look at it, 7-5 is not domination.

ya, 7-4 could be domination....but then what was the first round, may i ask?

[Pacquiao'd]

something i really dont agree like millions of boxing fans its that many people think or know pac will win because he is a more complete fighter..so why the catchweight?..

pac isnt a more complete fighter than JMM. hes just stronger and naturally bigger. thats it.

therefore, anyone who thinks that is WRONG

[AHUEVO]

1st fight, 7-5 for marquez, but thats not enough to erase the first round.

the judge even admitted he scored it wrong and pac should have won. so although officially a draw, we know pac really won that fight.

2nd fight 6-6 - pretty much even except for the kd so pac won again.

In my eyes:

1st fight - Pac had 3 ko's and a higher power punch margin. Yes, Marquez landed more overall punches, but I think Pac gets the nod by the slightest of slight margins. I have re-watched this fight numerous times, and conclude it was either a draw or I give the nod to Pac.

2nd fight - Marquez out lands Pac by a substantial amount, and in every category. Power punch differentials were: JMM 42% to pac's 37%. This clearly should have been a W for JMM, regardless of the knock down.

[Lac'em up]

Cant stand these ****** assss catchweights. They need to put a stop to this crap.

[Best in Boxing]

ok, but whats the point of only talking about the last 11 rounds of the first fight? Ya, he dominated 7 of the next 11 rounds. What good is that gonna do when you got kd'd 3 times in the first round.

Either way you look at it, 7-5 is not domination.

ya, 7-4 could be domination....but then what was the first round, may i ask?

I see you're avoiding my question ....


he must have gotten worked the rest of the fight for marquez to come close and make is so controversial, right?

Why was it so close across the board? One just had marqeuz winning 115-110 right??? how did pac let that happen?

THAT NIGHT, if pac was so much greater than Marquez... fight wouldn't have been so controversial after that first round. i don't see how you can dispute that.

avoiding question so there's no point in even discussing this further... say what you want again and avoid the question. pac had very large lead, marquez fought back, fight was a draw. end of story.

the one point is a non issue because he shouldn't have been able to fight all the way back. get it?? if your entire argument is the one point then keep holding on to that.

[Toyman]

I see you're avoiding my question ....


he must have gotten worked the rest of the fight for marquez to come close and make is so controversial, right?

Why was it so close across the board? One just had marqeuz winning 115-110 right??? how did pac let that happen?

THAT NIGHT, if pac was so much greater than Marquez... fight wouldn't have been so controversial after that first round. i don't see how you can dispute that.

avoiding question so there's no point in even discussing this further... say what you want again and avoid the question. pac had very large lead, marquez fought back, fight was a draw. end of story.

the one point is a non issue because he shouldn't have been able to fight all the way back. get it?? if your entire argument is the one point then keep holding on to that.

i didnt say he was the much better fighter...i just said he won.

:O

And for your 115-110 judge;;;

Do you not know another judge had it 115-110 for pac as well? You know what that means? Even after the first round, he still thought pac won 6 of the next 11. Just putting it in perspective for you...