Why do Floyd fans think that fighting Sergio will discredit every Pacquiao' Fight?

[007geyweather]

i recall arum giving mayweather 2 weeks to sign a contract last year.

I then recall mayweather going on vacation.

Mayweather didnt come out of retirment until pac's fight was announced..exactly how were they meant to know?


Edit: Cant believe you actually wrote this: Greenburg's comments were not an arum story lol -they came from greenburg himself.

It's not even worth now talking to a ZOMBIE!!!

I read you guys conversation and it went from.

You - Pacquiao Agreed.

Zombie -Woooarrrr

You - But floyd went on vacation

Zombie - Woooooarrr!!

Not worth it...

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i recall arum giving mayweather 2 weeks to sign a contract last year.

I then recall mayweather going on vacation.

Mayweather didnt come out of retirment until pac's fight was announced..exactly how were they meant to know?


Edit: Cant believe you actually wrote this: Greenburg's comments were not an arum story lol -they came from greenburg himself.

You recall what Arum spun you ,,,,, but its funny when you ignore what Arum said " We made NO direct contact with Floyd " so either way you want to slice it how in the *** has their been any REAL attempt to SECURE Floyd when other fights for Pac were promised before ALL this went down ,,,

Your not that silly are you kid , you do know how to read a time line dont you , how to cross reference guaranteed FACT like Mosley and Margo stating WHEN they were promised their fights ,,,,,,,

What Greenburg said actually transpired , is about as far from a negotiation as two associates having a chat at the local bar and they got spotted by a reporter ,,,,,,, Floyd has no problems being contacted by other promoters , Bob go through official channels like you would if you really wanted the fight .

The time line of factual events paint exactly what has gone on in this , and Manny is still ducking the fight and testing 3 yrs later ,,,,

Now you watch Bradley slip into the Clottey Margo Mosley public relations theme of if we cant get Floyd will take " So and So " you fools swallow it like a last feed , ,,,,,,, only problem with this scene , is how do you want Floyd when you already signed the fight with somebody else ,,, what does that tell you .

Its called a sham kid and the time line exposes all of it .

[Toyman]

You recall what Arum spun you ,,,,, but its funny when you ignore what Arum said " We made NO direct contact with Floyd " so either way you want to slice it how in the *** has their been any REAL attempt to SECURE Floyd when other fights for Pac were promised before ALL this went down ,,,

Your not that silly are you kid , you do know how to read a time line dont you , how to cross reference guaranteed FACT like Mosley and Margo stating WHEN they were promised their fights ,,,,,,,

What Greenburg said actually transpired , is about as far from a negotiation as two associates having a chat at the local bar and they got spotted by a reporter ,,,,,,, Floyd has no problems being contacted by other promoters , Bob go through official channels like you would if you really wanted the fight .

The time line of factual events paint exactly what has gone on in this , and Manny is still ducking the fight and testing 3 yrs later ,,,,

Now you watch Bradley slip into the Clottey Margo Mosley public relations theme of if we cant get Floyd will take " So and So " you fools swallow it like a last feed , ,,,,,,, only problem with this scene , is how do you want Floyd when you already signed the fight with somebody else ,,, what does that tell you .

Its called a sham kid and the time line exposes all of it .

Spin the words how you like:

I will trust the words of keith kizer and ross greenburg

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Spin the words how you like:

I will trust the words of keith kizer and ross greenburg

And Ive listened to them all and the true time line of events cannot be denied and it tells the truth , Arums actions in time dont add up to known facts of the same time , and its all provable , not speculation proof , the time line evidence is compelling .

[Toyman]

And Ive listened to them all and the true time line of events cannot be denied and it tells the truth , Arums actions in time dont add up to known facts of the same time , and its all provable , not speculation proof , the time line evidence is compelling .

If that's how you've convinced yourself then so be it.


What we do know is that there were negotiations last summer and mayweather went on vacation.

Given mayweather's semi retirement it was up to his team to start negotiations but instead decided to fight victor ortiz.

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If that's how you've convinced yourself then so be it.


What we do know is that there were negotiations last summer and mayweather went on vacation.

Given mayweather's semi retirement it was up to his team to start negotiations but instead decided to fight victor ortiz.

Pac was pre booked , dont you see that makes the rest a Arum lets save face sideshow one big lie , ask yourself how can they be chasing Floyd when other fighters are signed already and Floyd was never contacted directly ,,,, even though you dont know it that really is check mate .

[Toyman]

Pac was pre booked , dont you see that makes the rest a Arum lets save face sideshow one big lie , ask yourself how can they be chasing Floyd when other fighters are signed already and Floyd was never contacted directly ,,,, even though you dont know it that really is check mate .

lol

ThePrince made an accurate summary of what has transpired in the main thread.


I suggest you read it.

Again: Ross Greenburg confirmed there had been negotiations which check mates your claim that there had not been.

He then said you have to ask mayweather why he didn't want the fight.

Why would bob arum contact a fighter on vacation


Please; read ThePrince's summary. You might learn a lot.

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lol

ThePrince made an accurate summary of what has transpired in the main thread.


I suggest you read it.

Again: Ross Greenburg confirmed there had been negotiations which check mates your claim that there had not been.

He then said you have to ask mayweather why he didn't want the fight.

Why would bob arum contact a fighter on vacation


Please; read ThePrince's summary. You might learn a lot.

How do you have SERIOUS negotiations when your fighter is pre booked to fight somebody else ? the public announcement of a failed negotiation was already set up to fail or a smokescreen of not losing public appeal ,,,, but any fool can see you dont offer to auction what you already sold .

And how do you make GENUINE negotiations when you make NO direct contact ? and incidentally still hasnt to this day ! and Bob does not approach any other fight in this way !! so you do what Arum did and get your good buddy to ask somebody he knows over a beer and then I,ll call it a failed negotiation , all the while Floyd is on vacation that he started BEFORE Arums talks started ,,, follow the time line kid it tells it all .

[Toyman]

How do you have SERIOUS negotiations when your fighter is pre booked to fight somebody else ? the public announcement of a failed negotiation was already set up to fail or a smokescreen of not losing public appeal ,,,, but any fool can see you dont offer to auction what you already sold .

And how do you make GENUINE negotiations when you make NO direct contact ? and incidentally still hasnt to this day ! and Bob does not approach any other fight in this way !! so you do what Arum did and get your good buddy to ask somebody he knows over a beer and then I,ll call it a failed negotiation , all the while Floyd is on vacation that he started BEFORE Arums talks started ,,, follow the time line kid it tells it all .

Well by implying that there were no negotiations, you also imply that mayweather's team never approached pacquiao.


but thats beside the point because ross greenburg confirmed there were negotiations, which he said almost resulted in a fight. until well....you know.

Are you actually trying to say bob arum paid ross greenburg to lie ? Damn thats quite a stretch lol! Sorry if that destroys your whole argument but unfortunately its the truth.


Like i said, read theprinces summary in the main thread. all nicely outlined.

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Well by implying that there were no negotiations, you also imply that mayweather's team never approached pacquiao.


but thats beside the point because ross greenburg confirmed there were negotiations, which he said almost resulted in a fight. until well....you know.

Are you actually trying to say bob arum paid ross greenburg to lie ? Damn thats quite a stretch lol! Sorry if that destroys your whole argument but unfortunately its the truth.


Like i said, read theprinces summary in the main thread. all nicely outlined.

Greenburg said their were " talks " , thats not a negotiation , especially when the main party is not involved , Im not saying Ross is lying about talks to his buddy , Im saying it was an exercise set up by Arum in appearing to want something you actually have no intention of wanting , Arum is the one that called it a negotiation ,,,, but wait lol how can that be a genuine negotiation when you have pre booked your fighter ,,,,,,, 1+1 = 2 there is no yeah but Arum pre booked Manny , the rest dont mean jack .