Why do Floyd fans think that fighting Sergio will discredit every Pacquiao' Fight?

[UglyPug]

No doubt about it. What I question is how he got there. You don't go from losing to the likes of Rustico Torrecampo and Medgoen Singsurat to becoming a world-beater in one career without some type of enhancement.

I'm not hating, I'll give Pacquiao all the credit in the world for his accomplishments. But like I always say: Until he clears his name, they are ALWAYS going to be under a cloud of su****ion.

And when Bob Arum is your promoter, it doesn't help matters. That guy is a snake if I EVER saw one.

So who knows WTF is up with Pacquiao's camp.

Floyd's fighting Martinez doesn't discredit Pac's accomplishments.

What does that, is his refusal to be subjected to random OST.

Put your money where your mouth is Pacman.

What about Hagler? He went from losing to local club fighters? Sergio Martinez? Got TKO'd by Margarito, and drew with lesser guys early on?

Hopkins? Got FLOORED twice, and drew with a guy who is 19-10-3. . . ost the firs fight of his career against a scrub.

Boxers get better. . . they evolve. . . Pacsmash evolved. . . now silence ya chubby little fella.

[Toyman]

No doubt about it. What I question is how he got there. You don't go from losing to the likes of Rustico Torrecampo and Medgoen Singsurat to becoming a world-beater in one career without some type of enhancement.

I'm not hating, I'll give Pacquiao all the credit in the world for his accomplishments. But like I always say: Until he clears his name, they are ALWAYS going to be under a cloud of su****ion.

And when Bob Arum is your promoter, it doesn't help matters. That guy is a snake if I EVER saw one.

So who knows WTF is up with Pacquiao's camp.

Floyd's fighting Martinez doesn't discredit Pac's accomplishments.

What does that, is his refusal to be subjected to random OST.

Put your money where your mouth is Pacman.

Have you not already seen various clips of pac stating hed agree to ost..

Is keith kizer's statement that pac was willing to subject himself to ost if it was done by NSAC not enough evidence too?

Pac is UNIVERSALLY agreed by agencies such as ring magazne, espn, yahoo to be #1 p4p in the world. That's the only reason ppl hate/jealous of him.


How is pac supposed to take a ost [which is phony to begin with] if mayweather doesnt wanna fight him.

[D.I.E.S.E.L]

INB4 The Ban Stick delete this thread.

He'll be here soon...

[bose]

Floyd looking to fight a dehydrated Martinez at 154...Pac can do the same and beat Martinez.

[Toyman]

What about Hagler? He went from losing to local club fighters? Sergio Martinez? Got TKO'd by Margarito, and drew with lesser guys early on?

Hopkins? Got FLOORED twice, and drew with a guy who is 19-10-3. . . ost the firs fight of his career against a scrub.

Boxers get better. . . they evolve. . . Pacsmash evolved. . . now silence ya chubby little fella.

a nice dose of common sense.

[007geyweather]

No doubt about it. What I question is how he got there. You don't go from losing to the likes of Rustico Torrecampo and Medgoen Singsurat to becoming a world-beater in one career without some type of enhancement.

I'm not hating, I'll give Pacquiao all the credit in the world for his accomplishments. But like I always say: Until he clears his name, they are ALWAYS going to be under a cloud of su****ion.

And when Bob Arum is your promoter, it doesn't help matters. That guy is a snake if I EVER saw one.

So who knows WTF is up with Pacquiao's camp.

Floyd's fighting Martinez doesn't discredit Pac's accomplishments.

What does that, is his refusal to be subjected to random OST.

Put your money where your mouth is Pacman.

LOL...

Great example of a *****!!! hahaha

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Have you not already seen various clips of pac stating hed agree to ost..

Is keith kizer's statement that pac was willing to subject himself to ost if it was done by NSAC not enough evidence too?

Pac is UNIVERSALLY agreed by agencies such as ring magazne, espn, yahoo to be #1 p4p in the world. That's the only reason ppl hate/jealous of him.


How is pac supposed to take a ost [which is phony to begin with] if mayweather doesnt wanna fight him.

Pac is not perfectly clear to what he is agreeing too and others within his team are contradicting what he utters , if he is agreeing FULLY to Floyds drug testing demands then you would think in the very least his entire team would know about it dont you think ? why the contradictions ?

The other issue is I have seen nowhere or heard anyone from Top Rank or Roach Ariza or Manny make OFFICIAL contact directly to the Floyd people that handle his fights , seem nobody else has trouble contacting and negotiating with the RIGHT people ,,,, on the contrary Arum stated he has NOT made direct contact with Floyd ,,,,

Team Pcc needs to officially contact Team Mayweather and stop this media bull**** , just make the call Bob .

[Toyman]

Pac is not perfectly clear to what he is agreeing too and others within his team are contradicting what he utters , if he is agreeing FULLY to Floyds drug testing demands then you would think in the very least his entire team would know about it dont you think ? why the contradictions ?

The other issue is I have seen nowhere or heard anyone from Top Rank or Roach Ariza or Manny make OFFICIAL contact directly to the Floyd people that handle his fights , seem nobody else has trouble contacting and negotiating with the RIGHT people ,,,, on the contrary Arum stated he has NOT made direct contact with Floyd ,,,,

Team Pcc needs to officially contact Team Mayweather and stop this media bull**** , just make the call Bob .

Rather than question the ambiguity of pac's statement consider that keith kizer revealed pac was willing to do random testing carried out by NSAC.


I would focus my attention on the following:

Roger Mayweather: Pacquiao defintely isn't next.

Floyd Mayweather: Pacquiao you're next.......I never said that

Also consider the 2nd negotiations:

Ross Greenburg confirmed that they had indeed been very close to making the fight. When asked why it didn't happen; it was nothing to do with testing.

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Rather than question the ambiguity of pac's statement consider that keith kizer revealed pac was willing to do random testing carried out by NSAC.


I would focus my attention on the following:

Roger Mayweather: Pacquiao defintely isn't next.

Floyd Mayweather: Pacquiao you're next.......I never said that

Also consider the 2nd negotiations:

Ross Greenburg confirmed that they had indeed been very close to making the fight. When asked why it didn't happen; it was nothing to do with testing.

So you admitt that no official contact has been made to the correct people that handle Floyds fights ,,,, I suggest they do that and see what happens .

No more media bull**** , just go through the CORRECT channels .

You do know that the dates that Margo and Mosley were promised the Pac fight and both have confirmed those dates ,,,, do you know those dates makes Arums story about Greenburg and the website countdown all just a smokescreen , or are you still in denial of the REAL time line of known events .

[Toyman]

So you admitt that no official contact has been made to the correct people that handle Floyds fights ,,,, I suggest they do that and see what happens .

No more media bull**** , just go through the CORRECT channels .

You do know that the dates that Margo and Mosley were promised the Pac fight and both have confirmed those dates ,,,, do you know those dates makes Arums story about Greenburg and the website countdown all just a smokescreen , or are you still in denial of the REAL time line of known events .

i recall arum giving mayweather 2 weeks to sign a contract last year.

I then recall mayweather going on vacation.

Mayweather didnt come out of retirment until pac's fight was announced..exactly how were they meant to know?


Edit: Cant believe you actually wrote this: Greenburg's comments were not an arum story lol -they came from greenburg himself.