Hopkins vs. Dawson post fight discussion - Please do not make new threads about this.

[The Ban Stick]

Should the Hopkins/Dawson fight be declared a No Contest and a rematch granted?

Should the Hopkins/Dawson fight be declared a No Contest and a rematch granted?

[Walt Liquor]

obviously and why isnt the poll public?

[The Ban Stick]

New poll added, please let us know what you think.

[Walt Liquor]

that chaos guy already got destroyed for his ridiculous views yesterday. give it up, let the hate in your heart go.

[Walt Liquor]

why?


bernard was either faking and able to continue boxing or he was seriously injured in the shoulder at 46 years old

for a pro boxer that's the end of a career


either way i doubt anyone will persue this fight
no way the ppv sells.

i want to see the fight, but as long as they correctly judge it a nc, i don't care.

dawson can't beat bhop. it's just not happening, but I don't really care to risk my $60 again and bhop wont be able to fight for at least 6-7 months.

[The Noose]

NC and immediate rematch.

No way a title should change hands in the 2nd round after the fighter falls down.

[turkas]

Should the Hopkins/Dawson fight be declared a No Contest and a rematch granted?

It should be absolutely switched to a no contest, but I doubt a rematch will happen.

If I were Hopkins I would take my belts and undercut Dawson and make a 3rd fight with Pascal to close out my contract with HBO, it's easily the biggest fight in the division. This is of course all assuming that this gets switched to a no contest, which it should and probably will.

[Boxingtech718v2]

It should be absolutely switched to a no contest, but I doubt a rematch will happen.

If I were Hopkins I would take my belts and undercut Dawson and make a 3rd fight with Pascal to close out my contract with HBO, it's easily the biggest fight in the division. This is of course all assuming that this gets switched to a no contest, which it should and probably will.

F*&^ Hopkins he jumped on Chad's back and got we he deserved. I'm tired of you ****riders saying Hopkins was not to blame. If he didn't initiate the clinching and holding they would have finished the fight. Dawson finally came to fight and was on the attack and Grandpa Bernard didn't want no parts of that. Warrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Chad!!!!! I hope he gets his rematch with Pascal then fights Cloud to clean up the Div.

[JBell11]

In all fairness, the fight was inconclusive. Personally, another fight would be a formality; Dawson would have won anyway so with that being said, Dawson should keep it and fight Pascal.

Hopkins was a victim of his own actions i.e., lead right rush w/head down (headbutt). The shoulder bump is nothing new to the sport and has happened in many occasions when fighters try to exert weight on a "bobbing" fighter (e.g., Cotto vs Clottey, Chambers vs Klitschko)

[CubanGuyNYC]

Chad Dawson is Not the Champ

(The following is a commentary by Cal Fussman, which appeared on ESPN.com. I edited Fussman's comments for brevity, but the message remains intact. Those who wish to read the full article may hit this link: http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/s...led-no-contest)

Chad Dawson cannot be called the light heavyweight champion of the world after what happened in his fight with Bernard Hopkins on Saturday night...

Not much happened in the first round. There seemed to be a flurry by Dawson that moved the crowd. But when a replay was shown on the monitors around the Staples Center, something else was revealed. Dawson's two punches were blocked. It was Hopkins' right hand counter that dug into the body. The replay told me something. Maybe I've got this wrong. Maybe I should reconsider. It's always good to reconsider.

What happened in the second round happened too fast for me to understand while it was happening. Too fast not only for me -- but probably for the fighters and the referee, as well. I could only get a grasp of it on the replay shown throughout the arena.

There was Hopkins, with his back to the ropes, coming forward and firing a right hand. Dawson ducked underneath it. As he did, his left arm seemed to hook around Hopkins' right thigh. When Dawson's torso came up, Hopkins' body was lifted off the ground like a sack of coffee beans. Dawson then stepped forward and dumped Hopkins to the canvas as if he were unloading on the waterfront. Hopkins' head landed on the other side of the ropes. He grimaced, holding his left shoulder, no longer able to continue. The fight was over...

The confused crowd waited for the result. When Hopkins couldn't continue, the referee ruled, he basically forfeited the fight. Dawson was awarded the victory by TKO.

I didn't need to hear thousands of people chanting "B-------!" to know that the ruling was wrong. I knew it was wrong when I saw Dawson -- who'd landed only seven insignificant punches -- climb the ropes of a ring corner and raise his arms in triumphant celebration. You simply do not celebrate winning a championship like that under those circumstances. When you celebrate winning a boxing championship by body slam, you disrespect yourself and your own skills...

There was just no respect from Dawson. Not for Hopkins -- a future Hall of Famer. Not for the fans who came to see more. Not for the sport.

Instead of graciously offering Hopkins a rematch, Dawson said he didn't care to fight him again...

I have nothing against Chad Dawson. I've never met him. All I'm saying is that Dawson did not win the title with honor. In fact, he didn't win it at all. Somebody in authority has to step up, draw the line, take it away for now and force him to rightfully earn it with his fists in the future.

Because, otherwise, the body slam in the second round Saturday night will be a defining moment in the disintegration of boxing and the evolution of mixed martial arts...

Because if you can win a boxing match simply by body slamming your opponent, then boxing is no longer boxing. It's MMA.

Whoever is in charge better seriously reconsider that ruling. Hear me clearly: On the day a fighter is able to jump on the ropes and celebrate with arms held high the winning of a boxing championship by body slam, on that day, boxing will be listening to its own 10 count.

(What's going on with boxing? The sport is being killed by repeated, high-profile controversy. In the past month alone: Mayweather's distasteful KO of Ortiz; Hernandez's questionable victory over Cunningham; Dawson's unjust "victory" over Hopkins. To quote Shakespeare: "When sorrows come, they come not single spies, but in battalions.")