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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostPacs past prime fighters are better than Floyds best wins. Floyds win over coming off loss to BH, DLH is probably floyds best win on paper. Morales win alone trumps that.
Anyway, how does the fact that Pacquiao's best win is over a faded Morales, make him an ATG?
Give me ANYTHING that even slightly resembles greatness about Pacquiao.
Anything !!
I'll wait.....
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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostAnyway, how does the fact that Pacquiao's best win is over a faded Morales, make him an ATG?
Give me ANYTHING that even slightly resembles greatness about Pacquiao.
Anything !!
I'll wait.....
His wins over COtto is better than any of Floyds wins as well.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostPacs win over Morales isnt Pacs best win. But that win is better than any of Floyds best wins. Pacs win over hatton and DLH is better than any of Floyds wins as well, as he beat them way more convincinly.
His wins over COtto is better than any of Floyds wins as well.
For ***s sake dude, what an idiot.
Hoya was so far shot it wasnt funny, and he was fighting at a weight that he had not made for damn near a decade..... aside from that, he weighed 145 two weeks prior to the fight, 145 at the official weigh-in, and he weighed 145 on fight-night..... so you are a FKN IDIOT if you cant see what happened there, and you are a TOTAL NUT-HUGGING MORON if you give Pacquiao (or anyone) credit for beating a washed-up, drained, shrink-wrapped, shell, of his former self.
You pac-clowns are just fkn idiots, it is a joke that you think Manny is an ATG for beating OscarEven my boy Carpentier p1sses on "padded" Pacquiao's weak resume'.
And Cotto ?
When Pacquiao fought Cotto, Miguel had just been destroyed by Margarito and then battered by Clottey. EVERY reputable trainer/reporter/analyst said that Cotto looked shop-worn and well-faded, and that he had been in too many wars.
Cotto was not on top of his game, he had begun to slide, he had no trainer to speak of, and was struggling with problems both in camp and at home relating to a family matter that affected his relationship with head trainer Evan Cotto.
Miguel was not on top of his game, and he most certainly was not in his prime..... plus, Pacquiao tried to drain him on the scales.
Listen to this reporter's take on the subject, shortly after the Clottey fight....
"I wasn’t exactly shocked to see Manny Pacquiao’s name being linked for a fight with Miguel Cotto after the Puerto Rican fighters disappointing performance last Saturday night against Joshua Clottey. As bad as Cotto looked in the fight, and believe me Cotto looked pretty awful, it seemed like a no brainer that Pacquiao would then select him as his next opponent.
But my question is why isn’t Pacquiao going after Shane Mosley or Paul Williams instead? Why the emphasis at fighting Cotto, when he was destroyed by Antonio Margarito last year? It seems to me the much better choice for Pacquiao would be to go after Mosley, since he beat Margarito a few months ago by a 9th round TKO.
Since Margarito has already stopped Cotto, the logical choice for Pacquiao to fight would be Mosley. That’s the bout that Pacquiao should be going after unless he wants to be considered a cherry picker."
Pacquiao saw that Cotto was ripe, so he jumped on him, but even the fact that Cotto had faded was not enough of an advantage for 27%..... so he demanded a catch-weight of 145lbs.
A catch-weight, for a title fight..... *** me, that is lame.
Cotto of course, flatly refused. Miguel stated "147 if you want my title, but no-title if you need a catchweight". Of course, 27% demanded a catchweight and the title, it became a sticking point to get the fight made, so Cotto was forced to concede.
But even that was not enough for 27%, he demanded 143, even though his trainer Freddie Roach agreed to 144. Luckily for Miguel he stuck to his guns, or those cherry-picking ****s would have dragged him down to 143lbs.....
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275865
Catch-weights.....
There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....
1.) you are not good enough to compete with your opponent at his natural weight
2.) you are attempting to drain your opponent to gain an unfair advantage
Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.
The 143lb demand was an absolute joke, they really tried to do a number on Cotto. Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.
Shame on 27% for cheating history, not once, but twice, because he did the same thing to Margarito..... Emmanuel Steward was correct when he said that Pacquiao is a cherry-picker who does not compare with truly great fighters.
What a lame b1tch that 27% kid turned out to be.
And what a fkn idiot you turned out to be.
How you can give a fighter credit for beating a faded, shop-worn, disadvantaged, opponent, baffles me...... that is a completely pig-ignorant thing to do.
You wouldnt know a good fighter if he punched you in the face.
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Originally posted by LeadUppercut View PostYou are nothing but a nut-hugging moron.
For ***s sake dude, what an idiot.
Hoya was so far shot it wasnt funny, and he was fighting at a weight that he had not made for damn near a decade..... aside from that, he weighed 145 two weeks prior to the fight, 145 at the official weigh-in, and he weighed 145 on fight-night..... so you are a FKN IDIOT if you cant see what happened there, and you are a TOTAL NUT-HUGGING MORON if you give Pacquiao (or anyone) credit for beating a washed-up, drained, shrink-wrapped, shell, of his former self.
You pac-clowns are just fkn idiots, it is a joke that you think Manny is an ATG for beating OscarEven my boy Carpentier p1sses on "padded" Pacquiao's weak resume'.
And Cotto ?
When Pacquiao fought Cotto, Miguel had just been destroyed by Margarito and then battered by Clottey. EVERY reputable trainer/reporter/analyst said that Cotto looked shop-worn and well-faded, and that he had been in too many wars.
Cotto was not on top of his game, he had begun to slide, he had no trainer to speak of, and was struggling with problems both in camp and at home relating to a family matter that affected his relationship with head trainer Evan Cotto.
Miguel was not on top of his game, and he most certainly was not in his prime..... plus, Pacquiao tried to drain him on the scales.
Listen to this reporter's take on the subject, shortly after the Clottey fight....
"I wasn’t exactly shocked to see Manny Pacquiao’s name being linked for a fight with Miguel Cotto after the Puerto Rican fighters disappointing performance last Saturday night against Joshua Clottey. As bad as Cotto looked in the fight, and believe me Cotto looked pretty awful, it seemed like a no brainer that Pacquiao would then select him as his next opponent.
But my question is why isn’t Pacquiao going after Shane Mosley or Paul Williams instead? Why the emphasis at fighting Cotto, when he was destroyed by Antonio Margarito last year? It seems to me the much better choice for Pacquiao would be to go after Mosley, since he beat Margarito a few months ago by a 9th round TKO.
Since Margarito has already stopped Cotto, the logical choice for Pacquiao to fight would be Mosley. That’s the bout that Pacquiao should be going after unless he wants to be considered a cherry picker."
Pacquiao saw that Cotto was ripe, so he jumped on him, but even the fact that Cotto had faded was not enough of an advantage for 27%..... so he demanded a catch-weight of 145lbs.
A catch-weight, for a title fight..... *** me, that is lame.
Cotto of course, flatly refused. Miguel stated "147 if you want my title, but no-title if you need a catchweight". Of course, 27% demanded a catchweight and the title, it became a sticking point to get the fight made, so Cotto was forced to concede.
But even that was not enough for 27%, he demanded 143, even though his trainer Freddie Roach agreed to 144. Luckily for Miguel he stuck to his guns, or those cherry-picking ****s would have dragged him down to 143lbs.....
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275865
Catch-weights.....
There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....
1.) you are not good enough to compete with your opponent at his natural weight
2.) you are attempting to drain your opponent to gain an unfair advantage
Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.
The 143lb demand was an absolute joke, they really tried to do a number on Cotto. Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.
Shame on 27% for cheating history, not once, but twice, because he did the same thing to Margarito..... Emmanuel Steward was correct when he said that Pacquiao is a cherry-picker who does not compare with truly great fighters.
What a lame b1tch that 27% kid turned out to be.
And what a fkn idiot you turned out to be.
How you can give a fighter credit for beating a faded, shop-worn, disadvantaged, opponent, baffles me...... that is a completely pig-ignorant thing to do.
You wouldnt know a good fighter if he punched you in the face.
LOL @ this spanking of the decade.I don't even bother with these idiots anymore. I've accepted that Pacquiao is their God and they are sad, sad people.
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