Bernard Hopkins is the greatest middleweight in history

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  • Tha Greatest
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    #201
    Originally posted by RunWithKnives
    Glen Johnson
    Carl Daniels
    Syd Vanderpool
    Antwun Echols
    Action Jackson
    Segundo Mercado
    Held his own with Roy Jones JR.
    -Trinidad
    -Joppy
    -Taylor x2
    -Eastman

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    • tnerb
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      #202
      Perhaps..

      Get some scientists to bring all the old champs and have a big tourney to decide who's opinion is right.

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      • restless_438
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        #203
        yeah, everyone on the board knows im a big Hopkins fan and he's not the #1 greatest, that easily goes to Sugar Ray Robinson. But Hopkins is in my top 10 middleweights though.

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        • machotime
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          #204
          Hopkins should never be considered the best middleweight. I sincerely think that Hopkins is overrated. He is boring, economical, counter puncher, low KO power, horrible attitude, ugly as f***, and dirty. Has he beat some good opponents? Yes,.... but has he looked good doing it? not really. Great middleweights are those that have provided us with exciting fights. Hagler, Sugar Ray Robinson, RJJ, Lamotta, Cerdan, Ketchel,Monzoon, Greb. In my opinion it is not who you beat or how many belts you hold, but how you beat them, that Is what makes a great champion. Charisma also plays a role. But overall, my feeling is that Hopkins has not provided us with many exciting fights. This is evident even with the fact that he was not a PPV fighter until the end of his career, and when he was it was because of his opponents. Nobody likes to watch the guy. That does not make a "great middleweight". He also never went up or down in weight. The previous fighters mentioned did and for the most part, succeeded. He lost to the only true "good" middleweights that he fought(RJJ and Taylor). He beat an inflated DLH and Tito. He is overrated, and no way is he number 1.

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          • fightingmajor
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            #205
            Hopkins is probably top 10, but definitely not top 5.

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            • chimpy
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              #206
              Originally posted by fightingmajor
              Hopkins is probably top 10, but definitely not top 5.
              Agreed-Anything Hopkins has, Hagler had better= 1. Chin: Hagler never decked hurt 2. Power: Either hand 3. Beat the best, never lost a rematch.
              Hagler the he fought Hearns or Mugabi beats any middleweight whoever lived

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              • Run
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                #207
                Ok so now he's better than Greb and Monzon. He moved up and captured the Undisputed Light Heavyweight title.



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                • macman
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                  #208
                  Actually Greb won the Light-Heavyweight title before he won the Middleweight one, against much tougher opposition, as well as beating some good Heavyweights (& I don't think he ever weighed more than 160 either)

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                  • titoi
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                    #209
                    Hopkins is a great fighter no doubt. But.

                    Consider Hagler vs a fella named Hearns:



                    Or another guy named Mugabi:



                    A coupla other guys Hagler battled were named Duran and Leonard.

                    As great as Hopkins undoubtedly is, you won't find any similarly awesome displays of will as the above.

                    Hopkins would have fought with any fighter in history and done philly proud as he always has. But he simply didn't have these battles to bring him to the same level as even the relatively recent Hagler...

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                    • ben41193
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                      #210
                      He is not the greatest middleweight but he is defanitly a top 10 and at lest in my opinion a top 5 middleweight.

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